Rick Spence: CIA, KGB, Illuminati, Secret Societies, Cults & Conspiracies | Lex Fridman Podcast #451
Rick Spence is a historian specializing in the history of intelligence agencies, espionage, secret societies, conspiracies, the occult, and military history.
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*OUTLINE:*
0:00 – Introduction
0:37 – KGB and CIA
14:54 – Okhrana, Cheka, NKVD
30:26 – CIA spies vs KGB spies
37:02 – Assassinations and mind control
43:56 – Jeffrey Epstein
50:48 – Bohemian Grove
1:02:42 – Occultism
1:13:53 – Nazi party and Thule society
1:54:11 – Protocols of the Elders of Zion
2:27:16 – Charles Manson
2:54:03 – Zodiac Killer
3:04:57 – Illuminati
3:12:21 – Secret societies
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June 10, 2026 at 8:23 am
Thank you for listening ❤ Check out our sponsors: https://lexfridman.com/sponsors/ep451-sa
See below for timestamps, transcript, and to give feedback, submit questions, contact Lex, etc.
0:00 – Introduction
0:37 – KGB and CIA
14:54 – Okhrana, Cheka, NKVD
30:26 – CIA spies vs KGB spies
37:02 – Assassinations and mind control
43:56 – Jeffrey Epstein
50:48 – Bohemian Grove
1:02:42 – Occultism
1:13:53 – Nazi party and Thule society
1:54:11 – Protocols of the Elders of Zion
2:27:16 – Charles Manson
2:54:03 – Zodiac Killer
3:04:57 – Illuminati
3:12:21 – Secret societies
Transcript:
https://lexfridman.com/rick-spence-transcript
CONTACT LEX:
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EPISODE LINKS:
Rick's Website: https://www.uidaho.edu/class/history/faculty-staff/richard-spence
Rick's Courses: https://bit.ly/40dIZbw
SPONSORS:
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@АртемЕфимов-с7ъ
June 10, 2026 at 8:23 am
Поразительно умный мужик, я даже не поверил, что он все это берет из головы, конкретные фамилиии и т д. Очень нейтрально и правильно подает
@Brightest-Angel
June 10, 2026 at 8:23 am
Bohemian grove, is grooming ritual, from select elite; for further occult actives, cremation of care is a ceremony denouncing compassion, and reinforcing sacrifice and power.
@cmonty87
June 10, 2026 at 8:23 am
Alexander Kerensky-Fridman???? Hmmmmm?????
@CANHacker
June 10, 2026 at 8:23 am
Наконец-то кто-то объяснил что такое "говно на блюде", спасибо)
@togtoggler1991
June 10, 2026 at 8:23 am
this is why trump is awesome
@friscostreetstories5403
June 10, 2026 at 8:23 am
I worked at the Bohemian Grove for 2 Summers. Its not what everyone thinks, and they hire workers from the area.
@BasketballBusinessAndBossMoves
June 10, 2026 at 8:23 am
The irony of Spence uplifting the Russian intelligence apparatus while on the podcast of the most effective FSB asset in North America!!!!!
@spongae
June 10, 2026 at 8:23 am
This is the most impressive historian I’ve ever encountered
@saramomo7927
June 10, 2026 at 8:23 am
Answer to first question is the Vatican|Catholic Church…
@kl12345-u
June 10, 2026 at 8:23 am
The way he explained the hostility towards Jewish people throughout history really explain a lot of of the questions I had when I read the Bible myself and read through the history of both Eastern and Western cultures.
Based on personal experience, I’m a Chinese American lady grew up in NYC, I’d say stay away from those orthodox Jews, that dress in black coats with a Star of David, and black hats and two little hair thing on the side of their faces, those men are not friendly to other races.
The irony is, one of those Jewish men walked right next to me on purpose when I was walking my German Shepherd many years ago, and he was murmuring something when walking by me. I didn’t know back then what was going on, now I know he was cursing at me with hatred & disdain. My German Shepherd probably sensed & detected the hostility and his threat to me, & my GSD attacked him all of a sudden… like serious scared him that kinda GSD attack, not biting or injuring…
Man, I gotta say, the irony in this is that “German” people or dogs, really know how to deal with the Jews issue proper LOL
Not being racist or anything, just saying facts & experiences, stay away from those Jews, most modern Jews are fine, well educated & rich, likes Asian people & the food, but just some of them really religious uptight ones, keep some distance away from them for your own safety…
@LiftingAl
June 10, 2026 at 8:23 am
Lex switching the subject once it hits pedophilia has me worried…
@RuRe1-x3r
June 10, 2026 at 8:23 am
удивительно глубокая беседа
@Дмитрий-й4ь4г
June 10, 2026 at 8:23 am
Рик Спенс – дилетант с довольно поверхностными знаниями.
@vladislavkovalkov
June 10, 2026 at 8:23 am
This was an incredibly fascinating interview. The guest is extremely intelligent and articulate, presenting each idea with a clear and logical chain of reasoning. The way the information is processed and explained is very structured and insightful. It was truly captivating to listen to. Thank you!
@piotr5338
June 10, 2026 at 8:23 am
Sir OCHRANA .OCHRANKA means kinder- garden , 2) shelter for animals .😅😅
@capybaragun
June 10, 2026 at 8:23 am
how about the ideology of the JEW. why cant we talk about that, but only about the "nazi" secret society.
@NabeelaNaveedVirk
June 10, 2026 at 8:23 am
Ebert groener pact
Feidriech ebert socialist leader
Greener army chief
To defeat Marxist revolution 8n germany
Abteilung section 3b
Alexander parvus
@NabeelaNaveedVirk
June 10, 2026 at 8:23 am
The thule society is an offshoot of Ariosophist order germane order/German order centered in berlin
Ariosophists are racist germania offshoot of thesophy
Richard wagner wagnerian opera for a common identity of Germans
Ariosphy is the aryanized version of theosophy
The thule gazelschaft
@NabeelaNaveedVirk
June 10, 2026 at 8:23 am
1:14:03 the thule society small German occult society appeared in Munich in 1917 1918
Rudolf von sabottendorf real name adam rudolf glauer German esoterist founder of the thule society
You'd turk revolution is essentially millitary coup but it is plotted in masonic lodges
Macedonia risorta lodge in thessaloniki
Jewish merchant also a cabbalist termudi initiated the sabottendorf at eastern masonic lodge
@hjsg-gddtoy
June 10, 2026 at 8:23 am
Bohema Club и тд это BC=2:3=0,666 и этот символизм, в разных новостях какими бы они не были проталкиваются именно определённые числа
@hjsg-gddtoy
June 10, 2026 at 8:23 am
Рик Спенс настолько близорук, что даже удивительно что раскопал хоть что-то. Естественно у в большинстве таких случаев стоят спецслужбы которые покровительствуют теме сатанинского культа
@hjsg-gddtoy
June 10, 2026 at 8:23 am
Мэнсон был пешкой у спецслужб, думать что он замутил эту деятельность так же наивно как и полагать что Эпштейн самостоятельная фигура. Даже сам автор понимает что его выводы не сходятся.
@hjsg-gddtoy
June 10, 2026 at 8:23 am
Шерон Тэйт была женой Романа Полански, она была беременна и это случилось после выхода фильма Ребёнок Розмари, в котором режиссёр недвусмысленно намекал на оккультный характер элит. Это было сделано намеренно с ритуальным подтекстом
@QwerfdaDr
June 10, 2026 at 8:23 am
Три часа вокруг до около всех тем и ни о чем. Ни одного серьезного слова. Всё так словно что он знал какой вопрос когда будет и что ему ответить и как бы акуратно всё обойти.
Одним словом "Балабол"
@simplykudos5249
June 10, 2026 at 8:23 am
Ser Arlan of Pennytree
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