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What If It Actually Happened?

Joe Scott | October 15, 2025



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With all the news about UAPs and congressional inquiries into them, you would think that the United States government would have a plan in the event of an alien invasion. Today, we look at what exactly that plan is. You might be surprised.

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LINKS LINKS LINKS
https://www.bbc.co.uk/future/article/20221101-should-extraterrestrial-life-be-granted-sentient-rights
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-detection_policy
https://www.nsa.gov/portals/75/documents/news-features/declassified-documents/cryptologic-spectrum/communications_with_extraterrestrial.pdf
https://weirddarkness.com/the-governments-not-so-secret-plan-for-first-contact-with-aliens/
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2209.15125
https://iafastro.directory/iac/paper/id/79618/abstract-pdf/IAC-23,A4,2,3,x79618.brief.pdf
https://iaaspace.org/wp-content/uploads/iaa/Scientific Activity/setideclaration.pdf](https://iaaspace.org/wp-content/uploads/iaa/Scientific%20Activity/setideclaration.pdf
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/07/30/comet-3iatlas-alien-technology-interstellar/85435571007/
https://arxiv.org/abs/2507.12213
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_government_continuity_of_operations

TIMESTAMPS
0:00 – Intro
3:15 – Type of Contact
4:40 – Why Would They Come Here?
11:33 – What Would We Do?
20:52 – Sponsor – Apple TV+

Written by Joe Scott

Comments

This post currently has 49 comments.

  1. @robinleicester

    October 15, 2025 at 10:16 am

    I like how Joe worries about reference to the White House being insufficiently international, and then casually throws in a ref to Kudzoo as though it was a global phenomenum. ; )

  2. @jeffreymacmullin1653

    October 15, 2025 at 10:16 am

    I saw something shiny in the distance flying in the air and I thought it was an airplane and it shot up into the clouds abruptly, dip down for a second, then shoot back up and now I dont know what the fuck it was.

  3. @benwilms3942

    October 15, 2025 at 10:16 am

    Its strange to say that a species from planet with totally different conditions would look nothing like us, to refute the idea that they'd want our planet for its conditions. If they want it for its conditions, they're probably from a similar planet.

  4. @rexcooper3365

    October 15, 2025 at 10:16 am

    Don't knock Dr Lobe.

    And don't assume the aliens are organic. AI droids don't metabolize energy like organic species and exist outside the parameters assumed for intelligent life. This object changed colour from red to vivid green following it's encounter with a solar flare.

    If a spacecraft, it is surveying the solar system from where it is SAFEST – AVOIDING THE PLANET WITH NUKES. It comes closer to the Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars and Jupiter with its moon system – like MUCH closer – than what it does to Earth. It passed directly through part of the asteroid belt enroute and will traverse a different section early next year.

    But just in case there's perihelion shenanigans … I've preemptively taken out a Gaylien Probing insurance policy, all of which are invalidated by non-consent.

  5. @abeautifuldayful

    October 15, 2025 at 10:16 am

    Aliens could come in so many varieties and conditions, requiring specific reactions from us to preserve our species, even if they're far advanced. They could be exhausted, injured, or sick, barely alive after so many years of space travel. But while resting and healing, perhaps looking adorable or something like teddy bears, they might glean our soft spots to attack or exploit them later, threatening our existence without our knowledge. That's only one of many examples, too numerous to count.

  6. @lordhosk

    October 15, 2025 at 10:16 am

    Two things that always gets me about alien invasion plans is the idea that because they have the ability to cross interstellar space they must, inherently, be centuries more advanced than we are.

    But as you said at the end, their technology would be, incomprehensible. advancement in one area of science and technology does not automatically beget advancement in all.

    For a moment, imagine a scenario, where in 50 years, a scientist working on a next generation Nuclear Fusion reactor, and accidentally folds his lab into subspace… and it reappears on the other side of the solar system between where earth and the moon will orbit in 6 months. So for 4 months, everyone just assumes, woops implosion… then we see it… the whole lab, floating in space. for the next 5 years we reverse engineer it, and discover a way to controllably fold space and "JUMP" great distances in a instant. 5 more years, we have used this "jump drive" to successfully jump out past pluto in a single jump. 10 years later, we are jumping star to star. thats a life time. In that same timeframe, do you think all of our other technology would shoot millennia ahead because we discovered a new realm of science no one thought possible in 2025? Or would the world of 2095, be more similar to 2025 than not.

    After all, How much has changed since 1925, you can decide right now to move your hand controller, click a button, type less than 100 characters and buy a transportation ticket to Australia, and you can watch a play at the Sydney Opera House less than 24 hours after deciding to do so in your suburban Texas home. Meanwhile you still live in a box made of processed trees, have a k-9 for a pet, and drive a petroleum burning vehicle not so different from your grandfather.

    We like to Imagine that the future is radically different than the now, but when you were in High School I bet you thought 2025 would be way more different from the world of the 90s than it is. People still shop at the mall, there is still a cinnabun next to the hot topic and there is a subway and a chinese food stall in the food court. Sure you work as a Youtuber a job that was incomprehensible to Teenage Joe Scott, but its the job you have, and is it that different from someone with a TV show? Write a script, film it, edit it, send it out for people to watch.

    Secondly, maybe life is very different from us, maybe… just maybe… Alien life just doesn't care about Humans at all. They come to earth, we try to talk to them, they scratch us behind the ears, say good boy, feed us a food cube, then go on about their day. We like to think of ourselves as the Apex of life on earth, and maybe we are, maybe we aren't, maybe they are here to talk to whales, or octopus, or sharks, or don't care about life at all, and just wonder why these monkeys keep barking at them and following them around, if we were truely intelligent we would communicate with pheromones and hand signals.

  7. @Scarecr0wn

    October 15, 2025 at 10:16 am

    One of the best probe (pun fully intended) into possible exraterrestial visit scenario was definitely Arrival. Absolutely love the movie for many reasons but one of the main ones was that humanity acted prettty much exactly how we would irl (excluding the time perception gift I guess).

  8. @allansimba64

    October 15, 2025 at 10:16 am

    Always felt like if aliens would attack us, it would be for wood. That's assuming that for them rarity=value.

    Secondly, any peace loving civilisation advanced enough to get here would see us as brutes and probably avoid us. That's assuming there's some form of non-interference policy.

    Lastly, For a hostile civilisation, we won't even know it when they hit us.

  9. @moraerie

    October 15, 2025 at 10:16 am

    In a natural phenomenon that can actually occur which is a massive solar flare that destroys all comms in the planet we don't have a plan as well.
    We are like an anthill waiting to be stomped

  10. @reallyneed2know

    October 15, 2025 at 10:16 am

    Joe…they are here already .. call m crazy..but i v to believe my own eyes .. 26 years ago…in a mountain in Portugal that I found out later wss known for it, I saw a "plane" with no wings .. sun shinning on it…not very far from m and a friend…my friend reaction also blew my mind..he is religious…he turn his back to it…he didnt want to see it… thst was surreal too… so.. how can I not believe Joe?

  11. @tahbit

    October 15, 2025 at 10:16 am

    19:50 Whites like Joe Scott discuss the sense of powerlessness and helplessness that results from inconceivable technological disparity — apex superiority — as if there aren't people right here on earth who haven't been subjected to this very reality over the past two years, live streaming their eradication for everyone to see.

    We aren't afraid of the monsters beyond the Outer Limits. We don't have to look far to recognize that there are Demons right here — and they look and sound just like you.

  12. @ChrisGurin

    October 15, 2025 at 10:16 am

    What about a "District 9" or "Alienation" scenario? Yeah, they arrive in an interstellar starship, but they're refugees, galactic "boat people". They don't have any control over the automated ship, and are the bottom of whatever passes for a social order.
    Their one-percenters decided to make them somebody else's problem

  13. @joearnold6881

    October 15, 2025 at 10:16 am

    The dark forest makes zero sense.

    All these civilizations are hiding from a bigger, scarier one? Or several?

    How did all of them find out about it, survive, and communicate it to all of the others while still staying hidden?

    Bad idea from a bad book series.
    The author clearly had never even played a video game with the awful, dull “game” that took up like half of the three body problem 🙄

  14. @vencdee

    October 15, 2025 at 10:16 am

    Aliens are here for thousands of years but they give a fuck to people. They just keep their agenda silently ignoring us, except doing occasional contacts.
    Because communicating with such aggresive species as human would pose many risks. And therefore they won't share with us no scientific or cosmological knowledge until mankind evolve high enough to not abuse it. Unfortunately, not in this century.

  15. @bholdr----0

    October 15, 2025 at 10:16 am

    Aliens? We would be completely fukt- even if any aliens were perfectly benevolent and had 100% good will- we would be absolutely, completely, 100% Fukt!

    (Way more than when it DID happen! It HAS happened- WHERE, for an example, maybe 200,000,000 people in the western Hemisphere died before they ever saw an alien! (European!)

    And, frankly, I have no problem with that- just like I have no problem with some kind of conscious AI killing off biological humanity! If we are just a step in the ladder of evolution- why would anyone have a problem with that? Right? Right!

    We have a ridiculous human centric predjuice, eh?

  16. @emberthecatgirl8796

    October 15, 2025 at 10:16 am

    If aliens arrived on earth, that means they didn’t RKV our ass into the paleolithic. That means they are at least interested in peace. That means I might get to space after all. It’s a dream for me.

  17. @sarcasticnews1195

    October 15, 2025 at 10:16 am

    Excuse me. Avi Loeb has NEVER "gone all in on aliens" nor has he chalked ANYTHING up to aliens. You, like others, completely mischaracterize his positions. Whether you're doing that on purpose, or just being stupid, I don't know, but it doesn't go unnoticed. I've seen many of your other videos and have never known you to be a blatant prevaricator. It's a shame to see you start now. All of his positions are freely accessible on his page on Medium. Maybe you should read his actual positions instead of presenting strawman arguments.

  18. @JD-gi7qg

    October 15, 2025 at 10:16 am

    Hey Joe, this year’s Nobel Prize in Economics feels like something right up your alley. It went to Mokyr, Aghion, and Howitt for their work on “creative destruction” — basically showing how capitalism constantly renews itself through innovation instead of collapsing like Marx predicted.

    It flips the whole “capitalism inevitably eats itself” idea on its head, suggesting progress comes from continuous evolution, not revolution. You could totally unpack this in your thoughtful, big-picture way — how it ties into human creativity, social change, and why our systems might be more self-correcting than we think.

  19. @justinmasters220

    October 15, 2025 at 10:16 am

    We’d be lucky if there are aliens. More likely we’re in a black hole of a matrix and can’t get out and anything “alien” Is just another version also trying to escape.

  20. @evansaunders8446

    October 15, 2025 at 10:16 am

    The Klingon’s tried cooperating humans into their military years ago and found them more dangerous than their enemies. They shipped them back as quickly as possible. Unfortunately Kan is still loose in their universe. Crazy

  21. @basvh666

    October 15, 2025 at 10:16 am

    i had a dream that these aliens, we saw as our. guardian angels etc.
    they only come when they reset everything, basically everyone dies ( except animals, and some people with enough karma points )
    for those, they will ascend and live forever happily.
    our conscience will be collected and we will be put back on earth, starting all over. if you did pretty well you will become an animal.
    if you didnt, you will suffer again. until you learned your lesson ( basically hell )

  22. @bencebenedek2610

    October 15, 2025 at 10:16 am

    Do you have a scenario for the US military shooting down an alien aircraft with a missile? Because the US military said they did it with a hellfire misssile a month ago, showed the footage. If it was an actual highly advanced alien aircraft I hope the aliens will understand our concept of nations and will only obliterate the USA from the face of the Earth.

  23. @johnbaker9290

    October 15, 2025 at 10:16 am

    How do you classify Bill Uhouse encounter with J-Rod over the drawing board or Sheehan's mate on his deathbed chatting to galactic fed reptilian in captivity?
    CE 1000?
    Or nuke security seeing shadow beings regularly or navy pilots seeing them daily for two years?
    Whatever they are, they don't deign to follow our protocols.

    Wars aren't about resources, they're about flaming egos stealing land they don't need to be seen somehow and maybe get a seat at the high table.
    We were taught that, but most are corpo wars and pathological personality episodes.

  24. @imjustsaiyan7450

    October 15, 2025 at 10:16 am

    Nice spoilers on Invasion. Not going to bother now. Next time try to avoid telling people what happens at the end of the first season. There's a lot of stuff competing for our attention, and knowing the ships get decloaked and nuked before I've seen the opening credits of season one just knocked it right down the pecking order.

  25. @WrongParadox

    October 15, 2025 at 10:16 am

    if the aliens have the tech and resources to travel between the stars or galaxies in quick enough for it to be practical to do so
    … then they are well beyond what Earth can do, even in the unlikely event Earth somehow became coordinated enough to unite in a common front.
    .. end result – all the cards in their hands

  26. @Alex06CoSonic

    October 15, 2025 at 10:16 am

    Allow me to posit a hypothesis; the reason why we have advanced and exist as such a technologically advanced civilization, is because either there is no other intelligent alien life, or there is, but it's too far away to come to Earth, leaving us unharmed. Space travel is just that inconvenient and acts as a natural barrier to alien planetary ecosystems getting entangled with one another in general.

    But then again, every pattern in nature repeats. Which implies there should be alien life out there. So I think there must be, but it's too inconvenient for it to meet us, and it's probably likely to resemble life on Earth to some extent. It will likely be prone to infighting as much as us and other species on Earth.

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