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RE: Dear Fat People (or ‘Criticism vs Censorship’)

T1J | December 16, 2025

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  1. @beccak8166

    December 16, 2025 at 12:23 am

    Good satire should always poke up… it's just lazy to make jokes about social groups that are already marginalized. Like, the world tells me to ignore and look down on fat people every day, a comedian who just repeats that for shock value is just lazy asl imo.

  2. @SilortheBlade

    December 16, 2025 at 12:23 am

    Old video I know, but I can't agree with you on this, despite agreeing on a lot of your stuff I have recently watched. You argue as if she made the video in good faith. You also point out that satire has to have a point. But what was her point? TO me it seemed she just wanted to make fun of fat people, and had no other interest beyond that. Interpretation sure, but I doubt anyone would have a good argument to convince me otherwise.

    I wouldn't want to censor her, as she's just an idiot, but I also wouldn't support her. That's generally the best way to deal with this. Not going to give you views for being an idiot.

  3. @boyo-shook3891

    December 16, 2025 at 12:23 am

    I know this video is old but the thing that really bugged me about Nicole Arbour is that she's not…funny. Like, she just uses a school bully routine and expects everyone around her to laugh it up. Punching down is never smart when it comes to comedy because, more often than not, it just makes the one telling jokes look like an asshole.

  4. @MaggaraMarine

    December 16, 2025 at 12:23 am

    I know an old topic, but to me her video gave the vibe that it's being offensive just for the sake of being offensive. I think jokes can be in a bad taste, and I think her jokes certainly were. I'm not going to get outraged over her video, but I do understand why some people do. Yeah, it would be cool if people would just stay calm and post constructive criticism. But in some cases it's difficult to stay constructive when it's obvious that the creator of the video just wanted to make fun of a group of people for the sake of making fun of them. I don't think "it's just a joke" is a defense. Sure, she was probably exaggerating, but you can still clearly tell what she was trying to say. My point is, it being a joke doesn't change anything. (And I don't think she was "joking", really – she just made her points in a more "funny" way. I mean, if someone says "it was just a joke", this usually means that they didn't actually mean what they said. But I don't think this is the case with the video. I would say it was comedy, though.)

    Don't get me wrong, even racist jokes can be funny. But usually we laugh at them because of how ridiculous they are. If someone who was actually racist made the same jokes, we wouldn't laugh at the jokes – we would just think this person is a racist. It's all about context. The context is not that "it's just a joke". The context is who's making the joke and what are their intentions.

    I think it is possible to criticize fat acceptance without shaming fat people. But I feel like her whole point was just shaming fat people, not constructively criticizing the fat acceptance movement. I don't feel like her video was being constructive, so I don't know why other people should be constructive about their criticism.

    But yeah, I agree that getting outraged over something doesn't really solve anything. It usually just causes more harm than good – the "other side" will see all the people getting "triggered" over the video as a justification for the existence of the video because "triggering libtards" is fun. And the over-sensitiveness of certain people on the left is what is making a lot of people not willing to listen to the other side, take them seriously and have conversations with them.

  5. @tj7929

    December 16, 2025 at 12:23 am

    I"m not really convinced she even thinks its comedy. it's sponsored by a product that makes money off of the people that she is showing so much "concern" for and their attempts to loose weight. feels like maybe the agenda might have been fat shaming the audience so they would possibly buy the "Fit Tea" products to loose weight, or maybe sending them into a complete shame spiral that they dive deeper into the depression weight gain / dieting & fitness product consumption spiral. I think it's very possibly a Horrible but potentially effective way to get attention and to make money off of someone that this "comedian" has little compassion or concern over. oh and btw (pro-tip guys) me not liking this Bully trying to fat shame a group of vulnerable individuals into feeling worse about themselves and possibly buy into her sponsors weight loss products is in NO WAY Comedy no matter what my personal opinion of the subject might be (personally think this "person" is a complete A. H.). (pro -tip) this would not be Comedy but is called evil and horrendous Bullying and unfortunately "marketing and promotion".

  6. @chestersdad07

    December 16, 2025 at 12:23 am

    I've seen too many youtube satirists who put out controversial opinions, get a backlash and loss of viewers but then come back with a whiny, butt-hurt response like 'South Park gets away with telling jokes about race, why can't I?'. This is a shitty counter-argument. Firstly, it takes a very big ego to compare themselves, home made video makers to the likes of experienced comedic writers, who do this for a living and understand nuance. Freedom of speech is a two sided deal….if you put out some controversial material, the response is going to be mixed and there is always a risk of push back, but that push back and counter response is part of freedom of speech as well. I have nothing against content creators who post controversial material and a candid way. It may be hilarious or it may be a comedic flop. I just don't have any sympathy for them, if the video is a flop and it receives a bad review, across most of the board. That's the risk that one takes when they put out something that is known to be controversial.

  7. @TheDarkalkymist

    December 16, 2025 at 12:23 am

    what i find funny is she doesn't want to create dialogue, note comments are blocked on her video, all while condemning people who's habits are unhealthy, does she include people who drink and smoke to excess, or those expose themselves to toxic hairs dye in the name of fashion?

  8. @CTRLVCatMemes

    December 16, 2025 at 12:23 am

    Yknow the video makes an excellent point of saying "just because you didn't laugh doesn't mean it's not comedy" and all I'm seeing in the comments is essentially

    "I didn't find it funny. It wasn't comedy".

    Like seriously people. Get a fucking grip. He made it real easy to understand.

  9. @creatingpulsars9979

    December 16, 2025 at 12:23 am

    Actually you misunderstand satire. Satire punches up, not down. What she was doing was something comedians like Tosh do. They're being assholes… "funny" assholes. Does she have any OBLIGATION to not be one? Of course not, but people are allowed to call her out on being an asshole when she acts like one. Satire is what Jessica Williams, Wanda Sykes, George Carlin, and many more have done on many occasions. Tosh and this youtube gal are not. In my opinion, it takes very little creativity or comedic skill to see a group of people the world already craps on and crap on them a bit more.

    Satire is critical of the power structure, not the people.

  10. @Squove

    December 16, 2025 at 12:23 am

    Nicole Arbour has every right to make video bashing fat people, and I have every right to call her a jerk for it. I also have every right to call her unfunny. What's the point of making art and sharing it online for the world to see if you don't want your art to be criticized? Its not okay to try to censor Arbour by flagging her channel or her video, and its not okay to send her death threats or threaten her in any way, but it is okay to call her jokes unfunny and call her a jerk for writing them. Like I said, she has every right to call fat people slow and smelly, and I have every right to call her a jerk. Free speech goes both ways.

  11. @0PommeFraise0

    December 16, 2025 at 12:23 am

    I actually don't agree. I have a lot of links and articles written by French sociologists explaining how humour shapes our society and how you have to consider who they're aimed at and why. Humour doesn't exist in a parallel world. It is necessarily influenced by the way our society is shaped. Moreover, satire is supposed to be aimed at those in power. Fat people do not hold power, mocking them literally doesn't contribute to the discussion. Seeing as you replied to an earlier comment saying you were wondering what kind of data there is on the social impact of humour, I'd be happy to give you the links I have and translate them in English

  12. @herbertcoleman9776

    December 16, 2025 at 12:23 am

    I thought comedy was supposed to funny not mean. Nicole was just doing the Trump. She wasn't funny, wasn't original and didn't make a point. Now she's crying that people were mean to her. She wanted attention, now's she's got it.

  13. @emilyblake4424

    December 16, 2025 at 12:23 am

    I love that she makes a video that out and out attacks people's physical appearance, and then disables comments for the video. I'm not angry or upset, but it's clear she's insecure and wanted to use an easy platform to elevate a false sense of superiority.

  14. @rosey7162

    December 16, 2025 at 12:23 am

    In many cases, and in this case, I'm not for censorship. I think that it's much more productive to realize that there are people and situations out in the world that will make you feel uncomfortable and offend or trigger you, and to find ways of coping with that on your own instead of trying to censor the entire world. I was personally offended by the Dear Fat People video, but being offended doesn't mean that I have to take action. I can just think something sucks without trying to assert control over people.

    On the other hand, I have no pity for Nicole. She made the decision to post a video that she knew would be controversial, for all to see, and the internet reacted to her. You can't do something publicly and expect to get no reaction. I think that driving someone off of YouTube because you don't like their video is extreme, but in the same way that I'm not trying to control Nicole, I'm also not trying to control the people who reacted.

  15. @Sonicsora

    December 16, 2025 at 12:23 am

    I never expected to be coddled, honestly. That isn't really the main point of why people are mad. The real point is the fact the original youtuber's idea of comedy is… really boring. Incredibly basic things you'd hear from a teenager who likes to pick at other people to feel better. Her whole video can be condensed into a single sentence. 'Haha, those fat fucks, am i right????'

    Considering society's bias towards hating people who don't click quite right into beauty standards (big, small and in between) it's just her repeating the status quo back at people and expecting them to laugh along with her. You can't even call it satire at that point, she's just saying what society has taught everyone about ideal body standards. Mix that with the venom she had towards fat people, it just gets really ugly, really fast.

    She also deleted her own channel by the way to claim she was being censored. That and she never enabled comments on the video to begin with before deletion, so if she was trying to provoke conversations about health, she wasn't exactly doing a great job.

  16. @stephaniebenton9070

    December 16, 2025 at 12:23 am

    To me, satire is typically more intelligent than hers was. It was poorly executed, preyed on an already vulnerable group, and her points were so deeply invalid and illogical that receiving anything from the video other than the negative is almost guaranteed from most people. Nobody likes to watch someone sit on the top of the pyramid and hurl stones at the people who arent also at the top.

  17. @professional-yapologist

    December 16, 2025 at 12:23 am

    My issue with it is not the topic itself. But the angle at which she chose to portray the "satire". Satire is meant to exaggerate a situation or a stereotype or set of behaviours to highlight the absurdity of the facts, which we usually consider normal or for granted, so that by comparison we can see how odd the topic actually is. Satire does not give you a pass to be offensive, because effective satire manages to show you exactly how ridiculous something is to give you a mirrored interpretation, not a license to be "edgy" with your comedy.

    So at this point, what I'm trying to say is that if she wanted to go about the topic of fat shaming then she could have been much more effective (if she was going towards satire) by satirising the actual societal standards, or speaking as a human form of "beauty and health oppression". If she was trying to show how ridiculous that is, then it'd come across better, but her target was the ridicule and mockery of fat people and not the people who are the perpetrators. And that's where she fell flat on her face and the response is justified. Because in her (I'm assuming) attempt to be a joke about the pressures against overweight people, she only managed to be extremely hurtful using offensive examples and downgrading people. That's not satire, that's not comedy, that's a failure of intentions.

    She didn't manage to create a satirical and sharp commentary about the absurd standards of beauty, health and the concept of fat shaming. She just came across as vapid and rude with nothing to offer in the form of constructive criticism against the system but only enhanced it further with her video which of course is getting backlash because her "point" is clearly not there, even if her intention may have been. So yes, if she remade the video with a much better script it may be considered successful satire and even open a conversation about the difference in the first one versus the theoretical second one. Until then I'll consider it a poor, weak attempt at satire when the creator really doesn't get it, at all.

  18. @Noise_floorxx

    December 16, 2025 at 12:23 am

    i have a real problem with people who are offensive for the sake of being offensive and then they act like youre weak for being offended. in those cases, i make a point not to take anything they say serious but i do usually let them know where they can stick their shitty attitudes.

  19. @erikalane123

    December 16, 2025 at 12:23 am

    imo satire is most successful when it critiques the already-established societal rule or trend or whatever. but a thin pretty white girl making fun of fat people, that doesn't really challenge anything, that's actually just a stock character from any movie about high school ever. what's weird to me is she seems to think she is brave and unique and "new wave" (her words) for telling fat people that she is not okay with them being fat. also, generally hoping that people don't aggressively perpetuate really harmful ideas to young people on the internet is not the same thing as expecting comedians to be nice all the time.

  20. @hpti999

    December 16, 2025 at 12:23 am

    I gotta say I disagree with your use of "you can't expect to be coddled by everything you see." Not that I disagree with that sentiment, but because I don't feel like that is the source of the outrage here. I don't think anyone is getting upset by the video because it doesn't coddle their sensibilities, but because it's actively taking pot-shots at a group of people traditionally shamed by society for actually trying to speak up for themselves and be treated better. To that, I wouldn't say it qualifies as satire (or, if it does, by the absolute strictest, black-and-white definition possible) because the group and ideas it's satirizing are those actively seeking to make society more open and accepting. The whole punch-up v. punch down rule, punching down just makes you a bully.

    Also, it's kind of lame to use the "they're just jokes and not meant to be taken seriously" route with what she's saying. I'm at least 95% sure you know that trying to hand-wave off saying awful things as "just jokes" is meaningless.

  21. @evilbabydoll

    December 16, 2025 at 12:23 am

    imo, it's fucking lazy resulting to "jokes" about groups of people that already face enough shit, instead of learning why those groups of people are the way they are, including fat people. there's many reasons why a person can be fat, none of which you can tell by seeing them walk down the street. regardless if she's serious or not, it's not like she's saying anything clever, she's just rehashing the same shit that the media already tells people. essentially just saying "fat people are fat!". i still think her """"comedy"""" is lazy and monotonous as hell, aside from being a waste of time. been said and done before tbh. yawn. next.

  22. @emielabalahin465

    December 16, 2025 at 12:23 am

    Interesting response. I would generally agree with your points about satire and appropriate responses, but I find it one-sided. I agree that she has the freedom to make any kind of video she wants, but she cannot also expect people to only react in certain ways. It seems absurd to me that someone should make provocative statements and not expect strong reactions in return. So I think there is another lesson to be learned here: if you're going to provoke people, then take responsibility for the consequences as well.

  23. @konstancemakjaveli

    December 16, 2025 at 12:23 am

    Some encoutagment is better than others. If you try to suggest a drug addict not to use but he still uses, you dont suggest anymore but take more action.
    This might not be the case with fat people, but there are some ways to encourage the decrease of obesity. Yes, i am saying fat people should improve their health and be fit and not become lumps of fat, but i am also not fat shaming. I am ok with fat people, as long as they either aknowledge their problem and try not to be more fat or try to be fit.
    I absoluttly hate people that encourage fat people to "eat on". That is disgusting and should be banned. All the goverments should see these actions as a great problem to modern obesity problem and instead encourage fats to improve by state financed health care fitness reliefs or something.
    And yes, i support harsh treatment when it is realy needed.
    You either choose the carrot or the stick.

  24. @MusicalDecay

    December 16, 2025 at 12:23 am

    It's not really surprising that this happened. Nicole knew exactly what she was doing when she uploaded that video. All you have to do is check out her other videos. Now while I didn't feel the video was exactly funny, I don't think that warrants flags and death threats. I wish more people were aware that satire and insult comedy feed off the controversy, and by linking her video everywhere, you were just doing what she wanted. Just because you don't agree with someones comedy doesn't mean the world should bend to your opinion. The conclusion that bullying someone until they change themselves is without a doubt wrong but that isn't the issue here. The issue is that we are in an interesting format with YouTube and social media in general. It is so easy to spark controversy that many people are so quick to go to defense without analyzing the situation. There are many people I don't agree with on views, but blasting them with arrogant hate mail doesn't solve anything. If you watch the video and you feel your deduction is that it's satire then you shouldn't be so offended. Just as you have the right to slander the video, she has the same right to make it in the first place. And what do you get out of the slander? Nothing. What does she get? More views. If it was more clear that she was clearly being hateful then the format of the video would have been different. But it seems she's just being edgy for comedy and hitcount sake. And as I said her catalog of videos should come as no surprise to what her style of edge is. The bottom line is that there are times where people just need to not take fire and everything that goes bump on the internet. Save it for actual issues. The interesting thing that did surface out of this is the ongoing smoker vs. obesity death rate debate. The interesting thing is that many people in defense of her video were asking why smokers get more hate than obese people because obesity kills more statistically. I thought the answer was common sense but being obese doesn't make people around you obese. Unless you want to count the factor of obese parents raising kids with bad habits but that alone isn't plausible to the debate. Smoking damages people around them who are non smokers. And that's why they most likely get more flack. But again that is another example of this video sparking debates that have nothing to do with the actual point of the video. In conclusion, did I find it funny? Not necessarily. Should I be mad at people who did? Absolutely not. Who am to dictate someones sense of humor? Do I think this video was a direct attack at obese people? Well I'm a little overweight and I'm fully aware that all these things she said are stereotypical responses to obesity. And with the style of comedy she uses with irrelevant things as filler, I think it's clear that this was more along the lines of satire and controversy for the sake of controversy. Do I think her conclusion was correct? Absolutely not. But attacking people who you don't agree with does less positive things than helping people who deal with self esteem issues on the subject. You're not going to change Nicole's mind but you can use this energy for a more constructive and positive post to support people in their troubles with obesity. In the end, that is the important thing.

  25. @JokerCrowe

    December 16, 2025 at 12:23 am

    Could you talk about your views on Comedy?

    Something that I find interesting is that I watched Your (T1J's) video about feminism(/feminazis) and he was talking about how Seth McFarlane made some Jokes that were recieved poorly. And basically (i think) the point you were trying to get across was that McFarlane Isn't an Actual sexist, he was just making jokes about it. I agreed with you on that point, but then NerdyandQuirky's Sabrina did a video called "That's Not Funny"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmFuRUUdjUw

    In which she makes a rant about how there Are certain "jokes" that just Isn't Comedy. And I agreed with Her on that too, so Now I have these conflicting thoughts on the subject. And to be honest I'm leaning more to her side here, but I don't know if you and Sabrina are on "opposite" sides here, or just have slightly different views, but some common ground.

    So, what's your opinion on Sabrina's video? Could you maybe have/start a conversation about humor and Your Views on it? 🙂

  26. @SusieSue242

    December 16, 2025 at 12:23 am

    Pcos does not make one overweight, sure it makes its harder to lose weight and keep it off but it's not impossible. I have family with it and thyroid and they aren't overweight. And secondly she clearly stated its not for the ones with disorders: there are people overweight that are couch potatoes. If fat shaming is a thing then so is skinny shaming , I can't tell you how many times people said to me "dang you're skinny" I don't go in my room and cry : I don't care there are more things going on in the world then to worry about be called fat/skinny . If you don't like it try hard enough and your situation will change . There are very many hashtags for skinny positive body images ! Where are our hashtags? I think things like that does encourage people to live in those habits. At the end of the day words are just words don't let them get to you . Every new person you come in contact with judges you automatically, its human nature.

  27. @wokeaf1242

    December 16, 2025 at 12:23 am

    The Internet got censorship right on this one, because YouTube cutting off her channel was actual censorship. I personally do not understand the need to go to videos of people you say you don't like. I don't like Nicole's videos. I don't think she's funny. So I do not subscribe to her channel. The only reason I even watched some of her video was because it was reposted everywhere. (Common Twitter, you keep saying you're different from Facebook, prove it next time.) I said some of her video because I do not like her style so I turned it off after about a minute. Disagreeing means nothing to me, I disagree with more than 50% of the YouTubers I subscribe to. But if I like what they have to say or how they say it I'm going to subscribe. I don't get why people subscribe to and follow videos of people who upset them or they claim to "hate." I don't like Stormfront's website and I'm sure they have a video channel, but I'm not going to go there to tell them this. What would be the point?

  28. @cure4thecommon

    December 16, 2025 at 12:23 am

    #1 rule of comedy and satire: Be funny. She tried really hard, but ultimately for me that video just wasn't funny. And at no point did her "concern" for fat people seem genuine. It read to me like she just made a controversial video that she knew would upset people to get her name out there. But hey, it worked so.. whatever. Hope she's enjoying her new found success where most people vehemently dislike her.

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