Is Being Famous A Form Of Trauma?
Today is the debut episode of the podcast format of Justin Hawkins Rides Again featuring my producer Jenny May Finn. Today’s episode is all about that high we get as performers and musicians when we’re playing music and the effect it has on our lives off stage. What can we do about it?
Please use the comment section to chime in and discuss the ideas in this episode – the next episode we record we will include some of your comments and questions.
Justin’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/justinhawkinsta/
Jenny May’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennymayfinn/
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@gregbaugh7640
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
I don’t know about fame and trauma but I do know that major traumatic experiences have been the biggest factor in my music journey… it’ll surely knock you on your ass and playing the guitar for me is the only way I found my way back to some level of life, only to be knocked on my ass again over and over again and again and once again over and over music bringing me back around again… Peace
@rennexmachina5272
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
She has a very familiar face.🤔🤷♂
@stocksconfidential8862
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
I really love these videos where he is talking to this producer. Working for Justin must be like working in heaven compared to Russell Brand. Calm lovely thoughtful peaceful guy vs. loud crazy narcissistic lunatic.
@wannapostacomment
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
I really loved her vampire stories! The Mayfair Witches wasn't bad,, either.
@ladyloramarie
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
Appreciate the real talk about having a kid. Yoga helps with serenity…
@BarbaraAntoinetteVeronica
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
Stealing my words to make themselves to appear someone they are not for evil deeds. I am loving this episode, Justin. I know you've been healed. I don't think you knew that. That's ok. I know you are a giving person. You put yourself out there, the band a long time ago. You have lived many experiences good & bad. I know life can be very challenging. Great podcast episode.
@BarbaraAntoinetteVeronica
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
Someone just robbed a subsequent text. They do not care for being exposed.
@BarbaraAntoinetteVeronica
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
Jen, it is good to just be in the moment & understanding you are in that moment & there will be all different moments in you life. Appreciate all the good ones & try to avoid the bad ones. EXACTLY!!! BE WHOLE BEFORE ANYTHING. It prepares you for EVERYTHING. 💜
@BarbaraAntoinetteVeronica
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
Good points about normalcy re: cats so to speak, Jen.
@BarbaraAntoinetteVeronica
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
Silly time. That's okay. I'll leave you two alone like a big sister would do.
@laceduptight
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
Mindfulness is a huge part of DBT which is the frontline treatment for Borderline Personality Disorder. It's a technique from Yogic Practices. It's used as a technique for regulating emotional states in DBT. It seems it has sort of been co-opted and watered down by online wellness gurus and in circles involving crystal healing where manifestation courses are sold
@TheLeveragemusic
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
How Lovely
@frankowalker4662
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
Jenny is so lovely. ❤
@gretchenbaker7435
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
Jennys necklace is wonderful.
And so was the pod
@jamesduffy7106
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
I would argue that wanting a high isn't always getting away from something, it's about enjoy the times your having, and maximising your enjoyment, though definitely sometimes it's about getting away
@DavidEdwards-e6m
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
Getting seriously addicted to podcasts mate, your a superb entertainer!!!
@DavidEdwards-e6m
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
Whatever i do including putting the bins out, i'm never thinking i should be doing something better because the bins being emptied is so important to my general well being, i like to mop up my own s..t, it gives me pride man, lol, i guess these differences in our characters is what make people rich or poor in essence, i'm poor, lol but i have never been absorbed with accumulating money! i just want to smile everyday and money just does not create that for my type of character, i love sunshine, great conversations, hugs, smiles, art, creativity generally, learning, helping, along with a coffee, a smoke and no alcohol. I love life, money only brings short term fun and looooong term trauma, always has, always will!!!!!! Glad i learned this in my 20's.
@nickfleck4133
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
I felt a little sad when she worried she wasnt comunicating properly.
As the truth is justin just sometimes talks about something completly diffrent than the point she makes, and doesnt actually know what to say on topic.
I feel maybe she probably knows that to, so the awkward thing is her saying she felt it was her error of comunicating poorly, in away was the only time where she maybe didnt comunicate clearly.
Although she still did comunicate what bothered her.
I like the chaos of this, as its what gives it its substance.
The unscripted genuiness brought in by justin really makes it interesting.
Almost as if he provides an example that adds validation to the points jenny makes that if where said in a vacuum might be ignored or brushed off.
Not sure if that makes sense.
@pewsterbaby
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
All this analysis going on, I've always been dying to know the Freudian reasoning behind Justin's propensity for placing bare male chests/torsos in background on camera.
@synchronicity1470
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
44:40 On the other hand, no, nobody's "got" to listen to your art or see your creations to "make it worthwhile".
Many people paint or make jewelry, or build models or spin pottery, or write songs never with the intention of seeing, selling, showing or performing their art. I, for one, enjoy the PROCESS of creating. My enjoyment comes from the creation of the art. I have a few pieces around the house I particularly love and many more put away in boxes. Point being, I do my artistic creative endeavors for personal enrichment and not at all for a viewing or buying audience.
Perhaps James has lost the joy in the process of being on stage, which then requires greater effort to reach the highs needed to rev up an audience & generate the excitement that in the early days of metallica came spontaneously. And when it is over and he is sitting alone, he is drained from all the extra effort required to do his show.
I think the man is trapped in feeling a responsibility to his fans, while being long done and weary of what has become a taxing draining grind.
@markcarr68
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
I recall utilizing the Pentecostal church experience, that would sometimes linger for days. It was a thrill seeking, validating , Sometimes hopeful way to balance the guilt, boredom, sadness, apathy or general helplessness with a a shot glass or two of a hopefully Religious and euphoric experience. That worked for the first half of my life, until Google revealed answers, to years and years of unanswered questions, revealing MAN behind the magic curtain. The twelve steps simplified, how to keep my life as free of stressors as possible, by getting out of my head and helping or hearing a fellow suffering human. I've been way more prolific musically, in this sober, non fundamental,people living, agnostic half of my life so far. I'm 55 yrs old, and was diagnosed with autism this past year, which really put a clarifying microscope to the evolution of my life experience. We find our way when we're desperate enough to know or discover who we really are.
@DanielClancy
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
Funny you said this was going to be "stiff" because I totally loved this video the conversation was awesome. Good energy – sometimes the polish ruins it anyway.
@newinsight
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
I love how you grab a metaphor and run with it. Great chat thanks 🙂
@coldcoffeebear7459
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
Jenny May has a magical charismatic quality.
@curtisspeplinski6900
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
I like the podcast form of your channel, as well
Every fin is A-OK
@C_Melvyn_James
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
She's a smash hit! Lemme tell ya…
@steffen1405
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
JMF is as wise as a sage!
@pierrekruff
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
@JustinHawkinsRidesAgain … really like the Scotland Cap you wear Justin. Would you like to explain what your relation to Scotland is all about (apart from being a supporter of the Scottish National Football team)?
– Is it the influence from Scotland born Bon Scott (ACDC)?
– Having a band mate (Frankie Poullain) being raised in Scotland?
– Or just the fact that you love gigging Scotland according to severl interviews?
@Daneiladams555
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
I think fame can really fuck you up, I would think it would be a joy to come home to silence and no adoration, but that's me
@EJROCKER1
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
The therapist may have been trying to trigger self reflection. Like, are you a people pleaser.
@williamr3840
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
27:46 But without the "lows" the "ordinary" you can't have the highs. The highs can only come about by the contrast between whatever it is that is fuelling the high and whatever it is that is creating the low. If your day is taking out the bins and putting up those hanging-baskets your wife bought at Homebase then that low mood sets you up for a rush of heady excitement when you step out on stage that night to noodle to the millions. :0)
@williamr3840
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
9:11 Embrace the bins — become as one with them. :0/
@williamr3840
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
The cat stroking business — as opposed to the music industry? Turn it all around… Cats noodling the strings on Gibson guitars with their little paws, and rock stars blissfully curled up in in fibre-pile igloos? Now swish that idea backwards and forwards in your mind until it becomes your new reality. Suddenly everything falls into place and you dance across the patio a bin bag in both hands, feet barely touching the ground as you float surenely up into the night sky and turn left at that little star near the Big Dipper (I think?). :0)
@nikskou
September 6, 2025 at 5:26 pm
Wow this makes sense, I was thinking that Russel's and Justin's setups seemed similar.
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