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10 MINUTES AGO: Sam Altman STUNNED As Top Employees LEAVE OpenAI

TheAIGRID | September 27, 2024



10 MINUTES AGO: Sam Altman StTUNNED As Top Employees LEAVE

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  1. @kiwikevnz

    September 27, 2024 at 4:16 pm

    Don't take this the wrong way, but this was always going to happen, it started back with Anthropic, this was Sam I Am The Man Read Between The Lines plan from the start. From the start Sam lead us how he wanted or didn't, the company warterfall structure of authority, the board sacking for his blatant lieing, and on and on, the slow drip feed of staff quitting, one after the other, these senarios don't just stop mid-stream, turn around and go back to the happy beginning. The cause is deep and fundamental to the companies essential failure or entity change as is occurring now with the for profit coming online after it's new round of private Funding $6.5 Billion, in fact it had to happen this way for OpenAI to have any chance of a long life financially, it's bleeding millions of dollars. And to make that change from not for profit to for profit, OpenAI will have to satisfy all and every stakeholders interest satisfactorily just to be legal and this is going to cost a lot. Nite K >3

  2. @zandrrlife

    September 27, 2024 at 4:16 pm

    Bro you literally just make stuff up. OpenAI is not two years ahead of anyone. Their update is literally tree search, RL, and quiet-star. Open research far exceeded the research of any one lab. Facts. Anyone who believes they have AGI or anywhere close is delusional. No one would leave a company with or near AGI lol, why? Trillions, literally can’t start anything else that would be more valuable, not to mention you can bootstrap to literally anything else through it. First principles probably aren’t playing out how they hope. If a model still has the same failure modes, just does what it already could better, is that actual progress? Na, people are leaving because they lost faith in OpenAI.

  3. @Maximus18.6

    September 27, 2024 at 4:16 pm

    Only 5 years in the company, this woman had never received an opportunity there, she was and is always looking after her and her interest. This problem is the result of biased selection process, I am sure she was the worst candidate, however, she had a recommendation from Altman. Therefore , If you want to save that company from bankruptcy, the board of directors MUST lay off Altmann, he has became a parasit for the company, besides what can you expect from a person who has had a difficult childhood and is married to a man, he does not have love for human beings because he is a rejected and insecure with identity problems. I remember he said he was doing this for love to science, however, he changed OPENAI to a profit company, yes he loves the 140 billion dollars been paid to him.

  4. @SarahKchannel

    September 27, 2024 at 4:16 pm

    6 years in a silicon valley startup is like 30 years in a established company. Plus I know first hand how tiring and wearing it can be, to be excited about a project for extended periods of time – you get tired of being excited.

  5. @romanenkostas

    September 27, 2024 at 4:16 pm

    Mira Murati is the person who tried to get rid of Sam Altman, a year ago, isn't it? They just made a decision not to resign all at once to avoid collective resigns of frontline employees.

  6. @brett2themax

    September 27, 2024 at 4:16 pm

    My guess is they know they have achieved AGI internally and are going to deploy the agents so them as project managers are now obsolete. So they just take their equity and walk, while all the salaried people get fired in a year.

  7. @DailyTuna

    September 27, 2024 at 4:16 pm

    People move in that situation for two reasons. Either their purist or they see something bad happening . AI will go public one day, so why wouldn’t you wanna be involved with them? Unless there’s something else going on.

  8. @DailyTuna

    September 27, 2024 at 4:16 pm

    I think these people leaving are purist and that Sam Altman isn’t what people think he is and I don’t mean that in a good way. Remember, they brought along many globalist to their board. because you would quit and let somebody know that morning if it has to be something big?
    It would be like quitting Google before the IPO Why would you quit when eventually open AI is going to go public and the wealth will probably increase 10X?

  9. @novreis1952

    September 27, 2024 at 4:16 pm

    The cemetery is full of unreplaceable people, but are not good signs. As someone said, perhaps some discomfort with growing predominance of Sam Altman is the cause.
    Personally, if I as working at OpenAI, the main reason to leave was the growing connections with Government and Intelligence institutions. I don't agree with some specific speech of Elon Musk, but at least is not weaponized by the Government, as the most of platforms are nowadays.

  10. @tomhorvath6137

    September 27, 2024 at 4:16 pm

    This is only conjecture on my part but IMHO it makes sense, especially after reading the lawsuit that Elon has against OpenAI, Sam and others. Supposedly, the non-profit business OpenAI is ready to award Sam Altman a 7% stake worth $10.5B. How is a 7% stake in a non-profit worth $10.5B?

    My guess is that a number of the really smart people behind the success of OpenAI see the maneuvers of Sam (trying to claim OpenAI was never meant to be an non-profit), and his potential wealth benefit (for merely being a CEO who is not at the heart of the development of the underlying model) and are asking themselves why they are working for this guy and not making the big money themselves.

    I'm sure Sam's experience running Y Combinator and finding great businesses to in which to invest, and his management helped with the success of OpenAi, but to what degree when compared to some of the people who have left or are leaving OpenAi? Will be interesting to see what the future brings.

  11. @georgemontgomery1892

    September 27, 2024 at 4:16 pm

    This is a little tiring to hear. People leave tech companies ALL the time. There doesn't need to be a conspiracy behind it every single time. People look for better paying opportunities or create their own start-ups and most of the time with these A.I. development companies, they just take what they learn into their new startup.

  12. @shadfurman

    September 27, 2024 at 4:16 pm

    OpenAI is a house of cards.

    They're LITERALLY training their replacement.

    Most people aren't motivated by money, that's a poverty mentality. Poor people think in money and power, cause they don't have any.

    Most people, that have a comfortable living standard, are motivated by status. Money and power are aspects, side effects, of status, but that's not the goal.

    If you already have money and power, a common motivation is legacy. Doing something "for the good of humanity."

    This is often worse, what an individual thinks is "good for humanity" very often is not. Often, it's more of a virtue signal that's very bad for humanity, kind of like giving an addict heroine can seem empathetic, they are suffering very much, but what they need is much more complex and difficult to provide, as well as to many people, you'd kinda look like a dick.

    The economy needs a recession really bad right now. It NEEDS it, there is not way to make the enonomy better in the long run without it, kicking the can down the road will only make it worse later.

    But no one wants to allow a recession, they'd be seen as the asshole hurting people for fun, and it will hurt, but it is better for everyone in the long run.

    Hard things are necessary. When we have AI, people will have to choose to do hard things just to be happy. Many people will find this very difficult. At least until we can perfectly control brain chemistry, this will be the case.

  13. @TheAero

    September 27, 2024 at 4:16 pm

    because they can move to another company and be directly competitive to sam. Essentially be a leader in a new company that's is structured exactly how you want it.

  14. @TDVL

    September 27, 2024 at 4:16 pm

    These guys are researchers or worked at research outfits. They obviously chose that life not to be part of the grind. Suddenly they are working at the most intense tech giant in the world. They are also pretty rich because of owning a part of it. 2+2

  15. @daimonmagus

    September 27, 2024 at 4:16 pm

    Theranos was a total fraud. They had nothing. Their only "product" was pure hype. Please don't compare OpenAI to Theranos. It's a totally unfair comparison, as OpenAI has delivered multiple working products.

  16. @michelstronguin6974

    September 27, 2024 at 4:16 pm

    Extreme progress companies usually have a very high rate of executive change. Tesla had the same revolving door of execs, it doesn't mean anything good or bad, its just the way it works. Only deeply entranched and slow moving dinasaur companies have something resembling a university tenure or a permanent government employment.

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