The Price Of Winning & Why It’s Worth It: Truth About Kobe Bryant & Michael Jordan | Tim Grover
As you reflect on your business, career, and personal life; where are you winning, and where have you been losing lately? Whether you choose to see the pursuit of success and greatness as a game or not, the reality is there is a cost to play. In this episode, I’m joined by the legendary and iconic trainer, Tim Grover. He authored one of my favorite books, Relentless, and is releasing another book that will change your life called, Winning. He redefines winning in a way that embraces the discomfort of sitting with your losses. If you’re in it to win it, the hard truths Tim drops here about embracing the dark side and making sure your mind is stronger than your feelings will leave you supercharged and ready to attack winning with a new perspective.
Order Tim Grover’s newest book, Winning: The Unforgiving Race to Greatness: https://www.amazon.com/Winning-Unforgiving-Race-Greatness-Grover/dp/1982168862/
SHOW NOTES:
Winning | Tim dispels what winning is and why you need to know how to lose to win [2:09]
Seeing Inside | Tim on looking internally for the truth stopping your wins [6:07]
Winning Flaws | Tim reveals the difference between flaws and weaknesses [7:27]
Weakness | Tim on how to leverage and identify your weaknesses to get better [10:38]
The Process | Time on why the process is not about emotion, it’s about getting it done [14:41]
Pursue the Win | Tim on why not pursuing or seeing the wins every day is an illness [19:49]
Confidence | Tim breaks down how winning plays a role in increasing confidence [23:43]
Dark Side | Tim explains how using every tool available includes using the dark side [30:54]
Fear of Success | Tim on what happens when your feelings are stronger than your mind [42:02]
Cost of Great | Tim reveals the pain that playing to win can cost you and loved ones [45:45]
Becoming Great | Tim’s tips for finding your own path to winning and trusting yourself [51:45]
QUOTES:
Winning is not about the trophy and the accolades. It’s about the grind. It’s about the obstacles. It’s about the challenges. It’s about the pain that you endure along the way. “ [2:10]
“Everybody wants to win, but in order to know how to win, you got to know how to lose because you’re going to lose more than you’re going to win.” [3:40]
“Your flaws are your gift and people are so busy trying to deal with their flaws and change their flaws when their flaws are actually what allows them to stay in that race.” [7:46]
“These are the things that allow me to be different. It’s what allows me to be unique because winning wants you to be different.” [9:22]
“You got to love the process. I agree with that, but I also kind of disagree with that because to me, you have to do the process. The process is non-negotiable.” [14:46]
“The process is a non-negotiable thing. The end result is not always there. That win isn’t always there” [15:42]
“…if a new day starts in the dark, why are you afraid to use your dark side for your new beginnings?” [33:26]
“Your mind will make a decision. [….] Your feelings always make suggestions.” [44:39]
“You have too many individuals out there that are not writing their own story. They’re letting other people write those stories for them.” [50:30]
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@TomBilyeu
May 9, 2026 at 1:11 pm
What area of your life are you trying to be the Kobe Bryant or the Michael Jordan of? What are you going to take from Tim Grover's insights to make that happen?
@montechristo1150
May 9, 2026 at 1:11 pm
"Fear is ok, doubt isn't"
@gandolfthegold2528
May 9, 2026 at 1:11 pm
Winning is starting where other people stop. When they’re looking for hugs, their support group or their rest break and you keep going you are going to win. The unshakable will and determination to overcome.
@sebastianfmusic
May 9, 2026 at 1:11 pm
I’ve watched many Tim Grover interviews but this one is extremely powerful
@joshconnolly4636
May 9, 2026 at 1:11 pm
Epic pod
@hen1100
May 9, 2026 at 1:11 pm
So basically dopamine hits
@schubert5624
May 9, 2026 at 1:11 pm
Clown car
@williebrown3691
May 9, 2026 at 1:11 pm
Powerful message. Very Powerful.
@dimitrisbellos01
May 9, 2026 at 1:11 pm
Why I cannot find this episode on Spotify anymore?
@itsmesezgin
May 9, 2026 at 1:11 pm
Great podcast, so many nuggets! So much truth here to acknowledge.
@TRADEORDIE03
May 9, 2026 at 1:11 pm
Ohhh he’s the guy that told Patrick Bet David the story with his daughter. Full circle moment.
@gualbertogarcia305
May 9, 2026 at 1:11 pm
This Gentleman, Tim Grover, in The WNBA Offseason “NEEDS” to Weight Train and Mentally Train CAITLIN CLARK, WNBA INDIANA FEVER Player. Tim can IMPROVE CAITLIN’s Speed, Power, Explosiveness, Stamina and Other Needs.
@chrishays558
May 9, 2026 at 1:11 pm
Love the comment- winning has no loyalty. 😊
@theone6189
May 9, 2026 at 1:11 pm
19:28
30:10
@mgk_moloko
May 9, 2026 at 1:11 pm
❤
@balancius8381
May 9, 2026 at 1:11 pm
He has such a skinny neck, like chicken🐓
@luchianonivar9899
May 9, 2026 at 1:11 pm
Awesome interview
@hammerblack1859
May 9, 2026 at 1:11 pm
Winning is staying in the pain and fighting the obstacles the obstacles MaKe you istronger willing to go through all the. Why did you lose why did you get back down. Brutal race to greatness. What are limitations who are winning doesn’t lie the truth the actual truth you have to go so deep inside your self people the truth the combination changes the combination to greatness it keeps changing three digit combination
@faruklidowik7999
May 9, 2026 at 1:11 pm
This is something I wanted to hear .
@PAWANKUMAR-qq7hb
May 9, 2026 at 1:11 pm
Thank you @Tim grover❤
@BobbyDigital_TheCode
May 9, 2026 at 1:11 pm
Thank you thank you thank you, Tom for this upload. What you do is life changing for many. Thank you. ✊🏾
@thousandstar
May 9, 2026 at 1:11 pm
That part about winning section hit me so hard
@michaelreynolds4699
May 9, 2026 at 1:11 pm
I wanted to say George Clunney but I’m going with Woody Harelson!
@OxfordTown87
May 9, 2026 at 1:11 pm
he knows
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