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The Bible Condones Slavery! – Heated Debate

Alex O'Connor | March 12, 2026



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From the debate, “Is The Bible True?” held in the Bronx, NYC between Alex O’Connor and Dinesh D’Souza on June 1st, 2024.

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  1. @Marcus-OK-Y

    March 12, 2026 at 5:19 pm

    Alex, in response to both this debate and the more recent exchange with Glen Scrivener, I propose the following observations:

    Yes, Alex, this matter of God supposedly endorsing slavery in the Old Testament and the apparent feeble resistance of slavery by the Christians in the New Testament is problematic. The Bible’s weird dichotomy here has been contemptible used by phony Christians to excuse enslaving people even in America. It’s humiliating how many churches actually pretend the Bible legitimized their participation in this mockery of God. We are of course speaking of the God who liberates the captives in both Old and New Testaments…supposedly regulating slaves captured in war and indentured servants held in a coercive economy.
    Lucky for me I don’t subscribe to the nonsensical recently fabricated notion of “Biblical Inerrancy,” but rather I attempt to discern the textual oddities by the spiritual principles clearly taught and the theological foundation from which they derive. So while I maintain and enjoy the reliability of the MESSAGE of the Bible regarding the nature and relation and purposes of God and humankind and our redemption thru Christ etc, I don’t believe God actually spoke those slavery regulations, Alex. I suspect humans added that bit and a few other demonstrably perverse bits to excuse their sin against the God who delivered them from slavery. You see, once the Spirit of Truth frees you from the confines of the lie of inerrancy you can read and enjoy the Bible without cringing and jumping through hoops to explain the madness of humans in existential crises.
    As for the New Testament, I think we can conclude that the Christian Apostles DID abolish slavery within the Church, which is crucial to note because that was the stewardship and extent of their authority. I see no acceptance of slave ownership for the actual members of the Christian church; rather I see the principles and doctrines by which we can infer with certainty the repugnance of human enslavement in the eyes of the God who created us after the image and likeness of divinity. We also see in John’s Revelation the depiction of the wrath to be poured out upon those who enslave humankind in the end, both in general thru overwhelming systems and individually thru buying and selling persons as property. Whatever churches they belong to, they are plainly rejected by Jesus Christ. The enslavers do not belong to God, regardless of their preaching or professions of faith, for they deny Him by their works. So the answer to your question in simple terms is that probably they did not have the political clout to legally abolish slavery in the arena of the government. I feel certain they would have if they thought they could do it, so instead they exerted passive influence by living a sermon of freedom and human dignity in their own lives. Indeed since you referred to Paul’s letter to Galatians, note the bold call to resist all forms of slavery and the praise for Christ in liberating us from sinful nature so that we could more fully enjoy the privileges of civil freedom in a manner which expresses the goodness of God.
    So if we ever find historically that the church was keeping slaves you could definitely indict their spiritual hypocrisy as damnable. But if we only find their ineptitude at influencing the laws of various earthly nations and their attempts to focus on spiritual liberation without getting themselves wiped out, we can grant them a little mercy.

    Peter’s counsel should be not be misconstrued as moral approval for the choice of the slaver, but rather as encouragement for the resilience of the inner man of the slave, and the assurance of justice on the Day of Judgment. He is literally hinting that they look forward with satisfaction to the punishment of their wicked “owners.” I suspect he drew upon his own experience of brutal mistreatment from the Sanhedrin and is dogged determination to go right back to his calling with the joy of Christ in his countenance.
    Remember even today Christians approach our fellow citizens under two paradigms: the laws of God, and the regional civil laws wherever they reside. This is why I can respect the civil rights and autonomy of friends from many lifestyles, while simultaneously challenging them to consider the spiritual freedom offered by the teaching of our Creator and Redeemer. (Sadly many Christians are not willing to show respect for the civil liberties of those who disagree with their interpretation of the Biblical explanation of the conditions of mankind and the solutions provided by our loving God. But I assure you myself and many other Christians do understand this balance.)

    The Book of Mormon is of course very helpful in this matter as it pertains to cultivating a free society of high morale and morality and prosperity by work ethic and honesty and generosity and humility, and in respecting the agency of each individual as they seek truth and happiness, only resorting to force in necessary defense of personal or collective life and liberty. In times of peace, open discourse and persuasion, love and prayer, and personal faithfulness are a blessing to all and the hope of many souls converting to Christ as His goodness is abundantly poured out is a cause of rejoicing rather than scheming or coercion.

    I hope this helps.

  2. @Shivam-im7tp

    March 12, 2026 at 5:19 pm

    What Alex is trying to say is that God telling Isrealist to go take the land back after liberating them is same as Martin Luther telling all the slaves after liberating them is to enslave whites. 😂😂 which is kind of ironic idk how many white Christians would then look at bible and try to justify the act done by all the slaves that were liberated

  3. @blueshattrick

    March 12, 2026 at 5:19 pm

    Christians are willing to take the bible literally when it suits their purpose, then argue the specifics "don't matter" when confronted w/ one of the (numerous) heinous passages outlining slavery or genocide

  4. @presto709

    March 12, 2026 at 5:19 pm

    Slavery was fought againstg not because of the Bible, but in spite of it. Dinesh seems to be arguing that the Bible is a good book because so many people ignored the bad parts.

  5. @timwalls-n5m

    March 12, 2026 at 5:19 pm

    The Bible requires discernment. The Old Testament gives us two accounts of creation. One in the first chapter another in the second chapter. I believe the first account where the Earth is in existence before the Sun. And most importantly, I believe that this account speaks of an all powerful Creator. An all powerful Creator can create the Earth before the Sun and make it look as though the Sun should have been created first. An all powerful creator could create a matrix which includes mystery beyond our comprehension. And do it in one day, fifteen seconds or six days. Wouldn’t you like to acquaint yourself with this God? Concerning slavery, good questions and points, Alex. Why does God condone slavery? That is a mystery. But the second account of creation starting the second chapter and 4th verse of the Bible has god creating Adam as a servant for the purpose of tending god’s garden. While the first account of creation, in the first chapter of the Bible, presents God creating man and woman for the purpose of reproduction and to rule over the other creatures of the Earth. This first account does not present a God who condones slavery. Discernment is required when reading the Bible.

  6. @raptorcrasherinc.9823

    March 12, 2026 at 5:19 pm

    When asked for a verse in the Bible that could be used as justification for abolishing slavery, Dinesh cites sermons based on people's interpretation of the Bible. That is not the Bible! Those preachers were better people than the god they worshiped.

  7. @robertrivera8407

    March 12, 2026 at 5:19 pm

    No es lo mismo la esclavitud desde el punto de vista humano, a la "esclavitud" qué se menciona en la biblia. Hay que leer todo el contexto, no versículos o paisajes aislados.

  8. @Tthetune

    March 12, 2026 at 5:19 pm

    I just don’t get people’s fanaticism about a book. It’s a book. How are they this enthusiastic? So committed to a book of metaphors, fantasies, etc. it’s also full of immoral things as identified here. It’s odd to listen to adults be this inflexible in their thinking about the commitment to the fantasy.

  9. @ryanlehane9584

    March 12, 2026 at 5:19 pm

    This Alex guy completely ignores the fact that every abolitionist movement was Christian and that the reason slavery doesn’t exist anymore in the West, while it still persist to this day elsewhere, is because the Western World is Christian

  10. @cliptracer8980

    March 12, 2026 at 5:19 pm

    Be good to even the bad masters is about the helplessness of the time, way things are and can’t be helped, you still do the right thing, so they don’t have something to use against you so you don’t get worse treated of your own fault.

  11. @DanVlasin

    March 12, 2026 at 5:19 pm

    Luke 4:18
    The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me,
    Because He has anointed Me
    To preach the gospel to the poor;
    He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted,
    To proclaim liberty to the captives
    And recovery of sight to the blind,
    To set at liberty those who are oppressed.

    This is the verse.. Jesus came to set the captives free!

  12. @brettsharpe7305

    March 12, 2026 at 5:19 pm

    It might not bible the bible exactly but many historians even atheists believe Jesus went against the whole Old Testament and said he was the truth. Humans created slavery not god, humans also created the bible! Un perfect man always a sinner, no words or a book could ever fully describe our savior and to believe every little thing quote for quote is bogus since there are 1,000s interpretations of the same story, and different religions on the same story. That is the answer this man should have said, the bible isn’t law, thats why jews hated Jesus and still hate christians who believe in Jesus. Jesus biggest teaching was to love one another and be kind, this is even atheist historian views, and why he was killed in the first place because he went against the jewish church. Jesus never owned a bible or promoted a bible, god is in your heart, thats why is jesus real teachings, you are connected and loved. You need a personal interconnected relationship, not a book. If it were to be a book, what version is the 100% truth since there are 1,000s?

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