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Philosophy Tube | September 13, 2025



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  1. @VileVanGogh

    September 13, 2025 at 8:12 pm

    I don't think people are denying the idea that all art to some degree is influenced by an artist's surroundings, including that surrounding's political landscape, when they talk about "making art political". What they mean is that some art is used by some people to make a claim about how a certain state of affairs should be when it wasn't the artist's intention to make a claim of that nature.

  2. @CelestiaLily

    September 13, 2025 at 8:12 pm

    The difference btw mutants & irl oppressed groups is they don't have nukes for arms. They're real people, scared & peacefully protesting against armed police who'll bait them into attacking as an excuse to crack down on the whole group. Having mutant powers is a huge step up in being able to fight back.

  3. @CelestiaLily

    September 13, 2025 at 8:12 pm

    in 2017 punching Nazis and neo-Nazis is still an act of rebellion. Erik was being an overeager twat about it, but I'm willing to draw the line closer than Charles would say is enough

  4. @hamonteiro

    September 13, 2025 at 8:12 pm

    Serious question: why doesn't this channel have more subscribers?
    Why don't we – as a society – care about philosophy as much as we care about the Kardashians.? Is this a provlem that needs fixing? If ye how and by whom should that be done? Any books or articles on that?

  5. @elinope4745

    September 13, 2025 at 8:12 pm

    violent environments make men equal to women, children, and the elderly. women have superior social power, they can influence large amounts of males by subjugating their sexuality. children are inherently a protected class by all humans, and the vast majority of humans will defend children even if they are strangers, even if they are harming the person protecting them. this is a biological imperative and we would have died as a species if we did not possess this trait. the elderly are more knowledgeable and understand context better as well as are more skilled than their younger peers. male's power primarily comes in their ability to produce and to protect. this includes violence. when violence is suppressed, young males become secondary citizens, and are devalued.

  6. @HotSkull-z5h

    September 13, 2025 at 8:12 pm

    Let me refine my argument: Anime is just another form of Genre Fiction. It comes with genre conventions, familiar tropes. The avengers: civil war had a whole Socratic dialogue on the utterly destructive ramifications of superhero violence but… the movie is STILL SELLING straightforward, genre style, superhero violence anyway because the fans want that service. KLK may make commentary on the naked female body but it STILL is selling said female body anyway. That's just how genre fiction works. Many Anime deliver 'Fanservice' in the form of the sexually idealized female body and the ADOLESCENT male gaze that frames said image of the female body. Let me be clear, Anime isn't selling sex outright, anime is selling male teenage (yes, teenage, not adult) sexual fantasies. I say male teenage sexual fantasies because once you remember your 12-14 male self's sexuality then anime fanservice makes way more sense intellectually.

    ie.
    The impossibly perfect female bodies make sense once you remember that in adolescence, you, me, in our male gazes at that age, all idealized the female body. Humans naturally idealize the unattainable. As adult men, with wives and girlfriends, we don't idealize the female form as much anymore because we've experienced it intimately and regularly. Were all intimately aware of how it looks, smells and sounds.

    Same goes for the titgrabs and panty shots. That is what an innocent boy, not desensitized by porn, going thru of puberty would desire sexually. As teenagers, a handful of tit would feel INCREDIBLE, but as adult men, we're gonna need way more than a handful of tit to get aroused…

    In summary, I think judging fanservice ethically is silly because we are ALL biased to media that has the kind of fanservice we like. No human being intakes any media that does not have fanservice that appeals to them. So to judge someone for their taste in 'fanservice' whether it be panty shots, car stunts or superhero violence is just hypocritical. We all buy our own versions of fanservice. Anime fanservice does not appeal to me but this is my theory on why the fanservice is the way it is in anime.

  7. @thewingedcroc

    September 13, 2025 at 8:12 pm

    An X-men comic of a totally nonviolent, social-focused mutant resistance would be fun as hell!!!!

    Nonviolence, perhaps, is ignored because it relies on socializing with humans- and that's fucking hard man just blow that shit up amirite?!

    Figuring out how to convince someone to do the right thing (instead of forcing them to not have the ability to do the good OR the bad thing: violence) is such a difficult puzzle. But it doesn't mean it's impossible, just tough to crack. It''s almost a matter of faith to assume there is always a nonviolent way through a problem between people, but I think we must try as though it were true.

  8. @jamiemitchel7656

    September 13, 2025 at 8:12 pm

    Olly, regarding your last video, (Which I loved BTW 😉 why did you give such advanced authors and books, for example, Marx and Mbembe? In my experience, when people ask "what philosophers should I read to keep in touch with the world around me?" They have read little to no philosophy books and would prefer accessible introductions! Could you possibly do a redo of that video, where you give accessible introductions instead of advanced professors in critical theory? I could definitely see John Deweys "experience and education" on there, as well as Bertrand Russell's "Problems in philosophy" or his "Possible roads to freedom" maybe replace some bell hooks with Firestone or Crenshaw??

    Anyway on another note, have you read these philosophers- Max Stirner, Ivan Illich, Paulo Friere, Edward Said? I'm just wondering!?

  9. @Hecatonicosachoron

    September 13, 2025 at 8:12 pm

    The earliest existing (athenian) plays were definitely political. Aeschylus was deeply political – all his surviving plays have an overt political dimension.
    Comedy emerged from Scoptic literature (from some merger between scoptic poems and phallic processions) so it is, historically, also deeply rooted in politics.
    Arguably attempting to depoliticise art is also deeply political.

  10. @yogsothoth7594

    September 13, 2025 at 8:12 pm

    Your point on structural violence is a good one but as a utilitarian I'd like to point out that firstly, structural violence may indirectly cause more suffering than direct violence. For example if I was opposing an oppressive government and carried out structural nonviolent resistance the government counter measures over several years and its increasing militarisation (robbing other sectors of required funding and creating an authorities atmosphere) may combine to produce more suffering than that of carrying out a coup during the early hours of one morning and being in charge and preparing to hold an election by the next day.

  11. @LokrowN

    September 13, 2025 at 8:12 pm

    Isn't the point of fan service to please the fans despite bigger issues it could have? So of course you'd enjoy Resurrection F even with the fan service, specifically because of the fan service.

  12. @ianlaue6283

    September 13, 2025 at 8:12 pm

    Concerning the "success" of a political work of art, I think there might be a sense in which you are oversimplifying after all "effective" communication of an idea needn't completely persuade its audience….and further what do we mean by "audience"? If "Triumph of the Will" succeeds in providing an apparently attractive and romanticized version of Hitlers Germany and does so elegantly and with style….didnt it succeed? The fact that Nazi Germany was in fact a horrible authoritarian and genocidal dystopia isnt really the point. A great many people in Germany at the time were "bolstered" by the film. Film historians still respect its aesthetics and style choices despite rightly hating its politics. This was a film for a German non-Jewish audience encouraging them to see Nazism favorably, a great many of them did, so didnt it succeed?

    And if you do think a filmaker HAS to persuade you of their view in order to create a "good" film then does that mean every film by someone with different politics than you is bad? Does their style, deft character work etcetera count for nothing? You like Shakespeare….Its become clear in the past few centuries that his portrayal of Richard the 3rd is more than likely greatly exagerrated, that Richard the 3rd was in fact not the vicious tyrant he is written as….therefore may his defenders say "Shakespeare is a horrible artist, because I know Richard wasnt this evil so his work is crap!" Not the usual way we would think to judge a piece of art I think. Admittedly persuasion counts but I dont think its anywhere near as large a factor as you make it.

    Finally, aren't conflicting sympathies and complex feelings often what an artist wants to convey in an artwork….For example the Swedish horror film "Let the right one in" (which is excellent and you should watch it all the same) spends a fair amount of time simultaneously scaring us and getting us to sympathize with the child vampire in that work and does so in creative and poetic visual language, yet its also uncompromising in its portrayal of the vampire as vicious and repeated killer and one that will continue to do so….does the movie succeed because it manages to show the "humanity" of the vampire to the point of empathy (I think it does, and that its all the more disturbing for it) or does it fail because I didnt end the movie thinking "Yep, boy its totally fine all those nice people got murdered, reallly hope more people get butchered in the future"? Those arent the terms Id judge success. Admittedly its a fantasy piece and that creates some distance, but the fact that I was rooting at all for the child vampire to live, and that I developed an affection for the relationship that develops in the film speaks to its artistic virtues. That ambiguity is part of the point of the piece and a lot of artwork in general

  13. @MrPlaylistMan

    September 13, 2025 at 8:12 pm

    Are you talking about the recent BLM protests in the uk?

    because Im not so sure if British countries have much of a leg to stand on with police brutality compared to the u.s.

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