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TheAIGRID | August 31, 2025



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  1. @cpuuk

    August 31, 2025 at 4:47 am

    What belongs to others AI considers fair (free) game, but anything they ingest then belongs to AI. Essentially this a copyright land grab if it isn't stopped.

  2. @blackfiregaming1318

    August 31, 2025 at 4:47 am

    Here’s my issue with this whole thing nothing starts from nothing everything is trained from what has come before example if I myself write a song or play a guitar I was trained to do that geuss what it was from another source I didn’t wake up and know how to play a guitar or sing I had to learn how to sing I had to learn to play drums or what it is and geuss were I learned from copyrighted music singer that inspired me so is it then fair to say that because I learned from copyrighted materials that I can not sing make music or play guitar because I learnt from copyrighted materials you start to see how stupid this is the reality is this whole Ai things is a massive threat to these huge corporations that sell music make video games make movies if Ai can do all these thing then you have. A massive problem they do because they can become obsolete so what are they really doing using copyrighted as a excuse to stop it other wise one can make the same observation about any artist song writer or actor the list goes on this is about self preservation and nothing else you don’t see any of these same people arguing about there artists learning how to play from copyrighted material this is all a smoke screen!!!

  3. @Hazel_was_here_2

    August 31, 2025 at 4:47 am

    imo the whole copyright system is broken. It’s a system not meant to censor people and their creativity, we need to rejected it entirely. let them collect our data, as long as they let us use their code, and their data, every idea they claim to own!

  4. @kornelk5755

    August 31, 2025 at 4:47 am

    I would work oposite from government side. I would besides keeping away copyrighted material from free use for AI training, invalidate all permisionless licenses like Creative Commons, GPl, MIT, Copyleft and all other flavors for AI training use. This kind of licences make sense for human use where there is limited capacity how much one person can learn and use during lifetime. AI companies should always ask for permision and pay. Even if there were terms in agreements that you allow for training by accapting it should be canceled and make them ask per item with decent customization. This would be prioritizing human effort and nobody who has produced sth usefull for AI developement wouldn't be left behind.

  5. @adnanfaridi

    August 31, 2025 at 4:47 am

    They can surely pay for it or create the data. The China and national security argument is funny, laughable. Deepseek showed that already. Creating news, movies, images, books, even YouTube videos takes time an effort. So they want others to do the main work for them for free and then stab them in the back, and then further turn around and sell it to users for a monthly fee or token fee.

  6. @KSG-g6w

    August 31, 2025 at 4:47 am

    I think the users must be sued if the user use copyright material! Not the AI itself.
    Nobody sued the creator of certain weapon, but those who use it.

  7. @luisoncpp

    August 31, 2025 at 4:47 am

    There is another issue and it's that if copyright is tighten more to prevent AI training, that may make Wikipedia illegal.
    I think it would be reasonable to ask LLMs to quote their sources in every query and open source all their collected data

  8. @chriswininger3022

    August 31, 2025 at 4:47 am

    I'm don't replicate the music I listen to, so can I download any song I want for free? That certainly was not what they said to all those poor kids sued for using Napster. It's certainly not how Amazon feels about be making copies of the books I buy from them.

  9. @JoeBee9

    August 31, 2025 at 4:47 am

    Copyright law itself DESPERATELY needs an update. It's using laws that predate the internet; let alone AI. It's also used by large aggressive companies to quash their competitors in endless legal battles or to shut down non-profit fan project. It allows lazy ass CEO's (the kind that spend most of their time on the golf course and never do any real fucking work) to never have to innovate when they can stop competitors from even starting up and harvest their monopoly endlessly.

    On a side note, it's funny tricking AI into drawing copyrighted characters by describing the character without naming them. I got a "Super Mario and and Bowser (was close to the look by not quite) in a castle image this way.

  10. @memorydrinkers

    August 31, 2025 at 4:47 am

    Worth saying data is endless, it will never run out, all data is memory – human, place, measured, geological etc. Access to that data, the creation, harvesting, extraction of these memories is a bottleneck (and one OpenAI wants to break). But main point here is that there will always be changes to things, always new earthquakes, new words, new contexts related to words and ideas. Some of this can be managed with RAG and vector dbs; but in the end of the day there will always be more data.

  11. @Sequanis

    August 31, 2025 at 4:47 am

    Change the law to allow access to copyrighted data. That is impossible in a democratic free world. Because copyright is part of individual ownership. The funny thing is that Open AI, which has strengthened its ownership by becoming Closed AI, wants others to give up that ownership.

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