@CosmicSkeptic

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

Watch the full episode on YouTube now: https://youtu.be/r8RZarGC8B4?si=iSNr1-PJmhbeojKk
@invertedfjord

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

This is so silly. I honestly don’t understand why Christians can’t just believe in Santa clause instead. Same probability of existing and he’s way cooler. Religion sucks. The best ones are eastern inward ones because they have a little more real world application. Any external one is pure crap. I don’t even see the point in talking to these people.
@marcusshakur3481

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

The Hutsi didn’t not kill all the Tutsis, the Turks did not kill all the Armenians, the Nazi did not kill all the Jews. Mitigating factors of genocide according to this jackass.
@izzynut

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

Cliffe you are a sick Fr!
@austin_h

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

Ok Mr. Cliffe, if you think genocide in the bible is just hyperbole, then what the hell else in the bible is hyperbole? The flood, noahs ark, jonah and the whale, the man found picking up sticks on the sabboth and god allegedly had him killed for it? How about the whole bible is hyperbole is more like it.
@kenanderson2216

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

Are we still saying Yahweh is God? I beg to differ.
@JohnWhite-z5n

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

18:30 how to watch a genocide and justify it
@quinnmoore1017

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

It's refreshing to hear 2 people both debating in good faith of what they believe.
@HowieRaps

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

I'm teetering between gnostic and Christian views. It's very hard to understand why an all loving all knowing God would ever hurt anyone. It's hard to believe Jesus would ever harm anything, for love is the strongest weapon you could ever wield.
@20205050luz

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

To many words in debates!🙄

Let's go to point.

If the bible is shows the existance of God, lets' see what the bible says about him:

Alex: the bible reflects an unfair god. (At least to the morals and standard that we all agree are just moral, and equal. Our common sense standars that we have come to understand as morals)

Cliff: I have to explain the why things happened as they happenes in the bible so a moral person can understand it and reason with it.

The point.

Alex is looking for a god he can understand and fits into good and fair. If the bible does not shows that god, then there is no god. The bible god is made up. Because, how can he be so unfair and morally wrong. In other words if god has no morals or standard that satisfy mine, i can't subscribe to that god. That means there is no god.

But if God does not subscribe to our standars and morals, does it really mean there is no God?

If we gonna accept the God of the bible we will accept what the bible says He is. Not what our cutted up image of Him is.

What does the bible says about His peraonality? How does He describes Himself? What can we learn about Him for what He has done in the bible?

Is he an ogor god? Then who wants a gid like that? They rather believe there is no God.

If I am not mistaken, that is the point Alex want to make to the audience.

The bible narrates what happened, without giving explanations of why it happened.

Our understanding is limmited. Our knowledge of all things are limited too.

And even if there was some understanding in the bible of things not seen.

For example, if the fact that there is an spiritual realm. That we in fact, are living spirits inside a physical body, that there is more after death, How can we understand anything else in the bible??

But some people refused to believe that peice of information, how can the even begin to understand all of the rest of information that is available to us in the bible?

You cannot explain God with the bible to a person who choses not to believe in the foundational facts of the bible.

God is Spirit, we are spirit beings. Accept that truth first and then discuss everything else in the bible.

Other wised, is useless.
@20205050luz

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

Alex seems to know a lot about the bible.

I assumes he reads it and studies it to bring out contradictions in it.

Reading the bible to find out points of debate does not necesaary opens him to any explanation or satisfactory answer to his doubts.
@asadmir5947

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

Yes, agree with Feral Flora, 'Deflective and Extremely Unsatisfactory Answers'! Compare these Old Testament commands with the Quran commands, "The Quran and Islamic tradition establish strict rules for warfare, emphasizing it's permissible only for self-defense or to end oppression, not aggression, with severe prohibitions against harming non-combatants (women, children, elderly, monks, sick), destroying property (crops, trees, homes), mutilating bodies, or using fire as a weapon, while stressing justice, protecting the environment, and treating captives humanely. Key principles include: fight only those who fight you (2:190), do not transgress (2:190), protect civilians, preserve nature, and if the enemy seeks peace, accept it."
@Clintononon

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

Excuse me, can I use the frame in 0:56 as a Whatsapp sticker? Thanks
@PatilSanskarDhirendraB23CS105

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

But why does a book which is meant to be word of god , which is moral exemplar for people for ages why does such a book has hyperbole and open to interpretations
@joshualong7212

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

This dude at 11:30 Restraining yourself from committing a genocide is temptation holy f*ck these people are demented
@trindinwright6374

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

This is truly sickening their gross justifications.
Even communities outside the holy land are given a “choice“ of slavery or death. At one point, Is this whole worldview considered evil? What does the text need to say for people to say nope this just isn’t right? We cannot forget this theology was made for a people by those people. All their beliefs were created by them for them.

Yet even today we bend over backward to appease them out of fear if you do not they’ll get you. Their boogeyman god will get you.

The question must be asked, when did the Israelite people stop obeying these commands? If not ever why are people considered anti semitic for accusing them of doing what their God commanded them to do.

Bottom line, to justify any literal interpretation of genocide should be condemned. If these “special” people need to murder babies as to not fall into temptation maybe just Maybe they aren’t special. Especially given the fact they fall into temptation repeatedly on their own.
@Golden_Frieza0912

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

I just realize all the bitter atheists taking out of context cliffes responses and simplifying them lol.
@seankins7173

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

Christians really can’t hear themselves. It’s terrifying that they don’t hear it.
@_wlucidw_8919

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

"Rules for thee not for me"
@KMcG-nk9pn

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

This is an open mind engaging with minds that are already made. They are no longer taking in information. Thankfully we have someone like Alex with the patience and impetus to interact with people like this in order to stimulate minds before they are already closed.
@CharlesFuller-x7d

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

Cliff – god commanded genocide but it’s only because we live in a sinful world that god created because he knew Adam and Eve would go against him since he’s all knowing so god did it
@RickLezzMorty8448

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

It seems crazy someone would even think that there is some sort of justification for genocide
@Lauren-t2d2v

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

This guy is so full of sh*t. His glossing over the reality is so well-rehearsed that he sounds like a big collective Christian shrug and an, "Oh well…some get swept away and that 'bugs' me." 2 sets of 4 words: "THOU SHALT NOT KILL" and "TURN THE OTHER CHEEK." And I'm a believer! But I am NOT a member of this hideously hypocritical "church."
@xCCflierx

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

8:40 you would see the united nations react the same to laws against abortion. The UN is not a model of good morals
@NotUnymous

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

Weird ending, to let him spread his weird bs without rebuttal
@AlexaOleksa

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

People made religion out if 2000 year old fanfic, but sonehow look down on those who write their fave TV show pair smut fabfics🤷
@AlexaOleksa

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

1:31 "they appear in the next book, that means they were not all wiped out" 😮 oh, so just 80% genocide then, it doesn't count if someone lives, right? Omfg
@CaseyMcGregorAu

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

13:33 the worst thing is that the Israeli government has in fact pretty much said this by comparing Palestine to Amalek.
@benleeper332

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

19:00. Wow, what a weak answer.
@story-birdproduction4907

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

I feel like “why” questions are always personal, and the only real answer can come from the one who initiated the action. In this case, that would be God.
Anything we try to explain on our own is ultimately speculation.

If we take the idea that Israel was God’s chosen people and that God is all‑knowing, then one angle to consider is the human side of the situation.
Leaving behind people who represented sin or who could influence Israel in the wrong direction might have created ongoing temptation.
But even beyond that, I think there’s the emotional burden of memory.

It’s probably easier for someone to live with what they believe is God’s command when they’re not surrounded every day by reminders of the people affected by that command.
If the families or communities of those who were wiped out had remained, their presence could constantly trigger guilt, fear of revenge, or simply the emotional weight of remembering what happened.
When those reminders are absent, the memory is still there, but it doesn’t hit as hard as seeing those people every day.

And honestly, I think God understood that human side of the burden too.
@GracieMehr

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

Alex actually makes me more Atheist per video
@SpiritInTheWilderness

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

@Alex O’Conner, Every command of God in the Bible stories was a part of typology:

https://youtu.be/OZJ34ruPMYg?si=F4pt3IM1pIqgOFkq

Be blessed, My Friend!
@AustinMulkaMusic

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

What if the true test of God, is to see if we stand up to him when the Bible says that he kills women and children. And we don’t truly know that this is the test until we get to heaven. So, all of those that were following God’s unjust commands, are actually judged. And those who refuse to follow those commands are rewarded in heaven.

This is the kind of logic I basically hear when people say: “God works in mysterious ways that we can’t understand.” With that same argument of “God works in mysterious ways” you can create an argument in which those who are atheists out of moral conviction are actually the people who pass the test and get to heaven.
@jibus3556

December 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

It's frustrating going through the comments and seeing the amount of people who seem to worship O'Connor's words but also don't make any effort to follow his example by really listening to and making an effort to understand his opponents arguments. So many people intentionally misconstruing and rewording the Christian arguments to sound as bad as possible, not making any effort to understand the intention behind their words and instead actively morphing them to be something else that reinforces your own beliefs even harder. If you were truly a neutral truth seeker on this subject, you would have no need to do this, debating honestly and thoughtfully should be all that's necessary to determine if your beliefs are valid.