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The Weirdest Language Of All Time Is FINALLY Being Deciphered

Joe Scott | October 30, 2024



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When the Spanish Conquistadors encountered the mighty Inca empire, they found thousands of knotted-up ropes called quipus. Encoded in these quipus were tax records, census data, and the entire history of the Inca empire. But the secret to these ancient computers have been lost to time. Today, scientists are trying to crack the unbreakable code in these strings and bring the history of this great empire back to life.

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https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/apr/15/language-extinct-endangered
https://www.iesalc.unesco.org/en/2022/02/21/a-decade-to-prevent-the-disappearance-of-3000-languages/
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https://www.thoughtco.com/introduction-to-quipu-inca-writing-system-172285
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 – Intro
1:48 – The Rosetta Stone
5:47 – History of Quipus
7:11 – Tangent Cam
7:31 – Quipu Creation Date
9:18 – Professor Gary Urton and Manny Medrano
12:36 – How To Read A Quipu
19:14 – Sponsor – Incogni

Written by Joe Scott

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  1. @dtrisml

    October 30, 2024 at 7:18 am

    Curiously, quipus were also used to coordinate the Pueblo Revolt, which kind of suggests this system must have existed throughout the Americas at some point.

  2. @ThornyLittleFlower

    October 30, 2024 at 7:18 am

    I imagine a quipu that has someone's life story would maybe have belonged to their parents or elders and probably contained information like the date they and their siblings were born, the death and names of their grandparents, the livestock they owned, and the date of any significant event that meant something to them. It's possible the animal hair just corresponds to information about that animal in stock, or there are hidden meanings about what the animal represents. 🤷‍♀️ that's where I'd start anyways.

  3. @mikep490

    October 30, 2024 at 7:18 am

    Thank you for this interesting topic. In your example it sounds like the counting system could be to remember the counts… maybe with some of the rest being verbal? I could imagine many runners traveling hundreds of miles with tax records then delivering the knotted abacus out for an exact count. Numbers are well described… now we just need words.

  4. @zacharyhenderson2902

    October 30, 2024 at 7:18 am

    South America is a big place. If the Khipu writing system was still in use as late as the 19th century, I refuse to believe there's not somebody alive today who has, at least a rudimentary knowledge of how to read them

  5. @domg.1011

    October 30, 2024 at 7:18 am

    Nafusi: 300 000
    Picard: 200 000
    Sierra Totonac: 120 000
    Tolowa: 1 000 (?)
    Udmurt: 270 000
    Uru: >1 000
    Volow: 1
    Wintu: 1
    Yahgan: 0 as of 2022 (dormant)
    Yarawi: 1

    My language, michif (unsure which dialect, or if this is all dialects combined): 1 800

    17:53 Or a mixed language forms, like michif! : D

  6. @keithowen3523

    October 30, 2024 at 7:18 am

    True we lose a little from where we came from. “What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.”
    ‭‭Ecclesiastes‬ ‭1‬:‭9‬ ‭

  7. @tktyga77

    October 30, 2024 at 7:18 am

    Have you ever heard about whether or not the Aymara & Mapuche groups have also used the khipu? I read somewhere that they may well have shared this with Quechua groups & likely still do if so

  8. @djdrack4681

    October 30, 2024 at 7:18 am

    NOTE: Its 'very interesting' that the Incans developed Quipu, but didn't have a 'zero' placeholder/knot. Meanwhile the Olmec in northern S. America (Venezuela, Columbia etc), or more precisely their predecessors developed a long-count calendar (long scale way to track time/seasons/centuries) AND had a zero placeholder.

    In FACT: it appears that the Olmec's predecessors were the 1st to use a zero placeholder; somewhere between 2000BC and 500AD-ish. Egypt would be next to create a zero symbol (I beleive wit the shell-shaped hieroglyph); China didn't have one, I don't believe Indus Valley Civil. had one, Greeks didn't have one.

    MORE INTERESTING: Did Olmec's (or predecessors) have 'the wheel'? IF NOT, to develop complex mathematics and written language, but not have one of homo sapiens' "we did it 1st" "biggest inventions".

  9. @TomassonJakob

    October 30, 2024 at 7:18 am

    My grandmother is from a small town in Dalarna in Sweden and she speaks a language called Dalecarlian which is the closest language to Old East Norse. She also knows how to read Dalarunes, a runic alphabet from Dalarna.❤ I have been trying to learn everything from her because of how many speakers pass away each year 😢

  10. @jeanpaulcalderon8484

    October 30, 2024 at 7:18 am

    Yo soy descendiente cuzqueño orgulloso hispano y quechua hablante y muy religioso de mi fe

    La lengua española no causo un atraso en los andes sino un adelanto
    La lectura de los quipus ya estan registrados en la cronicas del sigo XVI

  11. @deandeann1541

    October 30, 2024 at 7:18 am

    I use a touch system to add meaning to my handwritten notes. It is not a very advanced system so far, I only use it to add three kinds of information to my writing, of which only one kind is immediately meaningful to the reader.
    #1 – did I have anything sticky for breakfast.
    #2 – have I recently spilled what I have been drinking.
    #3 – is my note paper on fire.
    It is not much of a beginning but revolutionary change must start somewhere, and a humble beginning is as good as any.

    I wonder if anyone has devised a way to add a layer of meaning based on smell? Paper impregnated with eg garlic could work as well as a cylinder seal or signet ring, I would imagine, or perhaps it could in some way express your nationality, your line of work, or your preferred cuisine? You could know you have a letter from your plumber as soon as you open your mail box – it would not even need to be printed on brown paper.

  12. @cmaven4762

    October 30, 2024 at 7:18 am

    We can credit Spanish conquistadors and priests with the destruction of millennias' worth of historical data across the various civilizations and cultural groups they encountered in the Americas… hubris is mighty that way …

  13. @fernandocalderon9578

    October 30, 2024 at 7:18 am

    The Inca knew how much llamas were in a village and who had them, they also knew how much potato's were stored as well as corn, clothing etc..To say that the Inca empire didn't have a writing system is erroneous, you can't have accountability without describing what you're counting!

  14. @pablocejas01

    October 30, 2024 at 7:18 am

    quipus and quipuqumayocs didn't just "die out". The spanish killed off the whole leadership of the inca empire in order to delete their culture and conquer the people. Quipuqumayocs were part of that. In fact, the leadership spoke a different language from quechua which was more like the universal language, and this language was lost. At least, this is what my guide said.

  15. @afjer

    October 30, 2024 at 7:18 am

    The monks were among the few who could read LATIN. The reason Protestants wanted to translate the Bible to local language was so the poorest farmer could access it. They were not as illiterate as we make them out to be.

  16. @enasniec-neicsnoc9591

    October 30, 2024 at 7:18 am

    Every time I learn about the civilizations of the Americas that predated colonialism, I am refilled with new rage about how much of them has been lost because of the careless destruction of the bastards driven by greed to destroy them. Like, I absolutely despise the mentality that allowed these people to see nothing wrong in destroying people just because they were different and they were in the way. A rich, vibrant society and all of its advancements were plundered for completely unethical reasons. Spain in particular owes some of these nations a fucking apology.

    And before anyone thinks I'm saying Spanish people should apologize, shut up, no I'm not. Individual descendants of the Spanish people of that age are not responsible for what their ruling class decided and the conquistadors did. I mean Spain as in the governmental body could issue an apology, or at least teach their citizens the history of the conquistadors and tell them not to repeat that crap. That would be a good apology. It would also indicate they gave a fuck, though, so I'm not holding my breath.

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