The Founders Are Dead. This Is Metal’s New Era?!
In episode 291 of Heavy Metal Philosophy, Jon Barbas reflects on the passing of Cronos from Venom. Now with Lemmy, Ozzy, and Cronos gone, heavy metal is entering a new era without its pioneers and legends. What does it mean for the art form as it joins other cultural forces like sport and film as “mature” entities with long legacies? Let me know what you think in the comments!
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@peterw5472
October 8, 2026 at 4:42 am
Cliff😢
@reverendlee7617
October 8, 2026 at 4:42 am
I was at almost the birth of Heavy Metal. I blame Black Sabbath, Alice Cooper, Rush, Kiss, The Sweet,….. Don't get me started with the 1980's.
@dreamtravelingspiritsoldier
October 8, 2026 at 4:42 am
The masters are still alive though. Karl Sanders, Nergal, and Henri Sorvali are still at it. And as long as Myrkur continues to carry the torch metal will be okay.
@damiangrimm1430
October 8, 2026 at 4:42 am
Ask this question.
Would any rock star care if you died?
@flesheater5712
October 8, 2026 at 4:42 am
For me it was the loss of Dio , the voice of my childhood.
@bobsala1138
October 8, 2026 at 4:42 am
Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Conway Twitty.
@jackluminous6024
October 8, 2026 at 4:42 am
Most of these new metal bands are formulaic and stale, a rehash of what's already been done.
There's no spirit in the metal like there used to be.
Move forward, sure.
Move forward with Black Sabbath and AC/DC, Rush and Primus, Priest and Maiden….
You KNOW it's NOT AI.
Almost
Everything since about 2010 is counterfeit, false and artificial, with autotune, vocal enhancement, looped and programmed computer sequences.
Listen to the Ummagumma album from Pink Floyd.
Listen to Rush 2112.
Iron Maiden Powerslave.
You know it's authentic.
FACT.
@briananderson1709
October 8, 2026 at 4:42 am
Perfect timing on the black metal cut. Just turned 48 recently and this really hit home
@marena3511
October 8, 2026 at 4:42 am
When family betrays a person, and that person is a hardcore metal fan, the musicians become more important, the lyrics of the songs and the emotions expressed in through the instruments are more honest and real than duplicitous folks who share one's DNA. I feel more kinship with artists whom I have never met than I do with estranged family members who have nothing to offer but stress and betrayal. The music I listen to resonates with my thoughts and emotions and my view of reality. My family however, they only ever sought to tell me how I feel, what I think, and what I am supposed to value. I am 52yo and have identified more with metal than with my family since age 12. Now my five adult children, they are all metalheads. We all cried when Ozzy went to the other side. Just today I cried for Dolly Parton, for what a great lady she was, her courage, resiliance, and compassion. She was so talented and such an awesome person that she did a duet with Rob Halford. Anyone could draw inspiration in their own life from the life she lived. But life goes on when the ones we love pass on. New life is born. My dog had puppies in July, and the boy I kept from the litter I named him Cliff Burton. So, yeah, celebrity deaths, particularly among metal artists and metal fans, can be quite impactful even decades later, because of what extraordinary people they were in life. 🤘❤️🔥🤘🫀🤘🖤🤘
@juan666q
October 8, 2026 at 4:42 am
Heavy to think about isn’t it? I’m 52 and have friends a lot older than me, and I know what’s down the road. Ozzy is love.
@averagebodybuilder
October 8, 2026 at 4:42 am
Heavy grunge isn't heavy metal?
@chucktaylor1065
October 8, 2026 at 4:42 am
makes me so sad 🙁
@Shibby27ify
October 8, 2026 at 4:42 am
Conway Twitty, best known for his appearance in Family Guy
@elsietrinity8636
October 8, 2026 at 4:42 am
Tribute bands/cover bands will keep it alive
@ansepe74
October 8, 2026 at 4:42 am
To quote "The heaviest show in the universe": Japanese metal slaps harder than your metal!
In many ways he's right. They've reviwed the classic 80's stuff, but also added some extra.
And no: I'm not referring to Babymetal, though they opened the door for many other acts.
I thought classic melodic metal was in stasis, but then I heard Lovebites.
@Grisu.
October 8, 2026 at 4:42 am
6:58 man, i dont want to be that guy but you seem to know nothing about electronic music, which is the biggest and most popular genre (and all its hundreds of sub-genres) today.
@Bredafromdejungule
October 8, 2026 at 4:42 am
I don't get why anyone would care if a celebrity stranger died naturally.
Alot of ppl say seperate the music from the person, and I take that to the limit.
@punxbasco2675
October 8, 2026 at 4:42 am
Não ben assim o motorhead ainda existe se chama Girlschool e os legítimo black metakler é a first formação do Holy Moses. . 😊
@thegunslinger8806
October 8, 2026 at 4:42 am
Listen you can't point to just the singer and the corporation and say the end here, Halford is alive and so is KK downing and Glen Tipton, Tony Iommi who is arguably the most important man in metal is still alive and well and if he dies that's where the genre now moves on without it's founder in the same way Freddie Mercury dying represented the beginning of the end for the arena rock bands of the 80's and the turn to Grunge and alternative that companies wish they could have convinced us all was our doing.
Cronos, Lemmy, Ozzy, they're important but only one and a half of those is a founder, Lemmy can say he is because he was there BEFORE rock n roll let alone heavy metal or hard rock, Ozzy was in the first band but he's a blues singer and the real driving force of that band was and still is as of this comment Tony Iommi and as long as him, Halford, Downing, Tipton, Wolf from Accept and maybe King Diamond if you wanna go with the first wave of black metal, you're not really in danger of any era ending just yet, you're just in danger of watching very old guys pass on unfortunately.
Iommi and the three members of Judas Priest would probably be the one's that guarantee you the 1st age of metal ends.
@DrScott666
October 8, 2026 at 4:42 am
0:21 Birmingham Forever! 🇬🇧
@JimmyKnight-m4g
October 8, 2026 at 4:42 am
R.I.P. Conrad Lant! As well as , Ozzy and Lemmy! At least we still have Bruce and Rob! I understand exactly what your saying about Ozzy, I feel the same way , and it was the first death that made me cry .
@TheHeavyMetalOccultist
October 8, 2026 at 4:42 am
I cried quite a bit when Ozzy died, and for literally months after I did not listen to literally ANYTHING else. It was all Ozzy all the time. It was how I mourned. He represents a lot to me personally, too, he's even kind of a spiritual figure for me. Kind of like a sacred trickster. Someone who seems dark and "bad" but totally isn't. I grew up very religious and it was all very judgmental but once I left all that shit I discovered how awesome Ozzy is and he's always meant so much to me. Such a good, beautiful, unique soul. I even made a little "saint" candle of him lol, you can see it in my videos.
@nipulkradrorschachskid
October 8, 2026 at 4:42 am
Lay down your soul to the…
@HeavyMetalRuuuuuuuulez
October 8, 2026 at 4:42 am
Dio is gone 😢
@meowza0215
October 8, 2026 at 4:42 am
Wow sub
Looks like Keanu, and I agree with every thing said
Easy sub, thank you very much
@winstonwins1096
October 8, 2026 at 4:42 am
The Nu Metal and 00s Metalcore guys will ascend after the Metallicas and Panteras. After that I honestly do not know.
@stevendefino7485
October 8, 2026 at 4:43 am
I have read "GEN-X was 35 by the age of 15. At the age of 50 they are still 35." I credit being a Metalhead for why time literally stops in some ways. And recently I saw COC on tour for the current album, not one person was under the age of "The copier machine is jammed up again, we cannot do our jobs!" I thought, "So this is Dad Rock now? I'm good! and there dances Woody Weatherman, one of the OGs himself, still having what looked like the time of his life."
@mightyturkeyneck1349
October 8, 2026 at 4:43 am
Only three times was I ever deeply affected by a celebrity Death: Kurt Cobain, 4.5.94, Johnny Cash, 9.11.03, & David Lynch, 1.16.25. Kurt REALLY got to me; it was the closest I ever came to a parasocial relationship with a stranger.
@justdev8965
October 8, 2026 at 4:43 am
i once wiped the chalkboard with a crumpled piece of paper. It sounded way better than Lemmy trying to sing. Lemmy and Ozzy are 2 of the finest examples why metalheads are tone deaf morons ⚠
@Jayagebee
October 8, 2026 at 4:43 am
Since no one will live forever, I’m sure my biggest feeling of personal loss when a musician leaves us some unknown day in the future would be Biff Byford of Saxon, Rob Halford of Judas Priest, any member of Metallica, Corpsegrinder of Cannibal Corpse, Jim Peterik of Survivor and Billie Joe Armstrong of Green Day😥
@kim_2918_
October 8, 2026 at 4:43 am
The good news is great metal is still being made by younger bands that popped up in the past 10-15 years….. Blackbraid, Jinjer, and Worm are some of my favorites to name a few. I have hope for the next generation of bands for sure!