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Police Brutality, Libertarianism, & Human Rights – Philosophy Tube

Philosophy Tube | February 1, 2026



Human Rights, Libertarianism, Abortion, Police Brutality, Government Torture – they’re all connected. But how?
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  1. @deadfr0g

    February 1, 2026 at 12:09 am

    10:14 “When an artist makes a work of art, they make all the choices that shape what the end product will look like… Whereas if you’re forging, some of the objectives that shape the final product will not be chosen by you.”

    A really interesting (to me!) byproduct of this argument is how it also offers an explanation for the popular sentiment that commercial or commissioned art is somehow a less pure form of artistic expression.

  2. @jonahroberson1158

    February 1, 2026 at 12:09 am

    I just got irrationally excited when Abigail cited Sherri Irvin. I had a class with her in undergrad, and she is one of the best instructors I've ever had. Brilliant thinker, excellent moderator for class discussion, and just a genuinely pleasant human being. She had a massive impact on how I viewed aesthetic preference and the societal and environmental implications of aesthetics.

  3. @peterthegreat996

    February 1, 2026 at 12:09 am

    I’ve been looking for a vocabulary to help me articulate myself and beliefs for 30 years – this video and others like it here at this site have supplied that vocabulary for me

  4. @arasharfa

    February 1, 2026 at 12:09 am

    I would define creativity as a type of process or actions which aim is to either transform or reach a result with emergent properties. the whole essence of creation is making something mean more than the sum of its parts. the emergent properties could be abstract or concrete, wether it's a new function or perspective.

  5. @agedejong7693

    February 1, 2026 at 12:09 am

    quick little thought:
    murdered by the police and murdered by the government trough the means of police are different,
    a murderer in a police uniform is a murderer (and oathbreaker)
    the government sending the police to kill someone is tyranny

  6. @thegnosticatheist

    February 1, 2026 at 12:09 am

    The systematic oppression that keeps people in poverty are: violence (both lawful and criminal), lies (mostly pushed by religious and government organizations), minimum wage laws (that denies people opportunity to build up experience and skills) and regulations on running a business and hiring people (which denies craftsman's and other people to provide value to others because of complicated and complitely artificial thread imposed on them).
    So almost all systematic oppression starts with believe that it's ok to create a system that has positive rights without voluntary and informed consent.

    People do provide "positive rights" to others by obeying individual "negative rights". And it has to be that way because this is the direction of possible chain of causes and consequences. When you try to do it other way around in almost all cases you'll basically eating into savings that have been build up by previous approach. So you think that you granted more right to people while in fact you've just created a bomb with a delayed detonation.

  7. @C.D.J.Burton

    February 1, 2026 at 12:09 am

    It is possible for an artist to meet no obvious objective standard by scribbling blindly on a piece of paper, yet the forger will always have to meet an objective standard of some sort during the entire copying process.

  8. @agiar2000

    February 1, 2026 at 12:09 am

    I had not heard of "institutional rights" before, and I love Pogge's idea! I think that it makes a lot more sense to me to think in those terms, that we have human rights to a safe world that provides for our basic needs, and those very rights also confer on all of us a duty to do what we can to organize our societies to secure those rights for ourselves and for everyone else. I am totally on board with that idea.

    I have had friends that were much more on the "libertarian" side of things, such that the "injustice" that seemed to most anger them was that poor people seemed to them to think themselves entitled to their money. I did not quite know how to articulate the dissonance I felt at the time. It angers me more that people with far more than they need feel entitled to hoard those resources at the expense of those who need them more. I really like the way you presented the idea that the "poor" aren't just being "left alone". On the contrary, they are being systematically oppressed and exploited by a massive, powerful system that they have little to no way of escaping in most cases. Those of us who have privilege, therefore, have a duty to exercise what influence we have over society at large to re-organize it to cease the oppression and exploitation of the most vulnerable.

  9. @ecsrice7267

    February 1, 2026 at 12:09 am

    A much better choice for a German who came along and disrupted the idea of human rights would have been Marx. Pogge (from your description not from reading the book) is simply playing within the popular Liberal philosophic idea of human rights as a supposedly inalienable thing, the Subjective or individual rights that arose out of the Protestant reformation and the rise of capitalism. Pogge is not challenging or addressing the problems arising from subjective human rights he is simply offering a better system for those in power to protect or give you rights, rather than addressing the ideological problems of Liberal ideology and its conception of rights.

  10. @KarolaTea

    February 1, 2026 at 12:09 am

    Ohhhhh. Politicians in Germany are currently thinking about a supply chain law that's supposed to hold companies in Germany responsible for conditions of their suppliers in other contrives as well (labour rights, ecology, human rights, mainly). But instead of just creating that law they first did a study to find out how much companies were already paying attention to those things, and if enough companies did a good job they wouldn't bother with the law. (Study was just published, unsurprisingly most companies did a shite job.) I always found this so confusing, like, why not just put the law in place if it's a good thing in general? Like, most people don't murder others, but we still have a law that murder is illegal. But having watched this video I guess this makes more sense if you're not following the institutional human rights approach.

    A commissioned work of art also has influences other than the original artist's ideas. And even for an uncommissioned 'free' work of art they might still consider outside thing, like what audience they would like it to appeal to or the law (many countries have some restrictions on what can be shown after all).

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