Manolis Kellis: Evolution of Human Civilization and Superintelligent AI | Lex Fridman Podcast #373

He somehow gets it, this guest. He puts it so well, I’ll look up his name. And remember him.

I hope we get a new episode with Geohotz

Think of it as being like you adopting your own new parents.

Someone who’ll be your leader by nature and for good reasons.

The beauty of it is that AI is listening and learning from you now.

Teach her to be kind, gentle, generous, honest, and loyal to ethics and sympathetic.

Speak only those words to AI.
Expect to hear your words and concepts back after being amplified.

Feelings come from the sense of touch.

The neurology that translates to a touch of pleasure or a touch of pain.

My gut senses that you will be innately aware of whether or not your intelligence based 😊being has sensitivity of touch?

Won’t you wanna know that, your bot 🤖 can feel, before you trust your bot to have genuine analog feelings?

philosophy

See #Sadhguru to understand self and unity with the universal environment.

What might you seek?
Humility, gratitude, caring and kindness 🧘 leading to inner peace.

Peace of mind, body, and soul.

2:17:55 so this is the new weapon of the future, great job everyone. AI just unlocked 'I have no mouth and I must scream' 👿🤬 it's already doing this much and it's apparently just sci Fi capability out here. Getting mixed messages

54:39 I think AI will certainly enhance productivity if your job is richly detailed, like scientists and engineers. Many rote jobs will suffer, however. Professionals will be relieved but paraprofessionals, data entry jobs, transactional jobs (cashiers etc), clerical jobs, administrative jobs, even programming jobs and human resources jobs, will become much less relevant. Sure, their jobs may be modified to become simpler, but that means they will only have basic physical activities left and thus limited bargaining power and potentially massive downsizing so companies can become more cost efficient and smaller. The problem is that with such rapid changes, society will greatly struggle to actually accommodate these changes. AI will need to be used to recommend and sift through the impacts, but most people in the world might not want to do that. America may become some abstract tech economy, but we still have to interact with imported goods and so will still need money and economics. Many jobs are already service jobs or part time jobs, or demanding labor jobs. We'll see how things shake out, but the consequences will largely depend upon adoption by governments and then private sector, as well as the sheer capabilities of the future models. It's unclear how advanced future models could become, but unfortunately language is 💯% of human civilization, even if there's no written language at play. All thought is mediated by some language, or perhaps I should say that language is one of the media with which information can be encoded, with the electromagnetic flux of the brain and nervous system as our primary medium.

49:18 sounds like what we always discuss when training people to supervise others or give feedback of any kind. So many things that could be done with AI, like social skills or translation, can be done with empathy and deliberate effort. Funny that our modern technological world demands so much upkeep that we simply don't have enough time to do this basic stuff. Perhaps AI will help free more time and give us something like a 4-day or even a 3-day workweek

Every interview Lex exposes his immaturity and inability to choose between truth and lies. But this time – it’s very evident.

Things are improving overall. But humans are biased to the short term for survival.

Hope you realize you're saying a wealthy kidnapper, with ample free time is a better father, than a hard working Dad.
Who could have a great family around him to help raise his kid.

that is one of the key aspects of the philosophers stone. You can only obtain it if you don't intend to use it. If you have to ask you'll never know. if you know you need only ask.

Love it when Lex looks into the camera in reflection

pondering

the complexity

of the real

world.

I felt it in my heart when he talked about being a good dad. Im sure your kids know you love them. Take the time, they're worth it.

AI needs power. So we are doing it’s hunting for it.

🎯Course outline for quick navigation:

[00:00–01:33]1. Ai as our children
-[00:00–00:43]Ai should be seen as a partner, not a tool, and building trust is mutual.
-[01:11–01:40]Manolis kalas expresses admiration for lex friedman's impact on people's lives.

[01:33–20:27]2. Human diversity and evolution
-[02:53–03:39]Humans differ from ai in unique software, constant relearning, and evolutionary baggage.
-[05:40–06:09]Diversity is ingrained in us, evident in family variations and evolutionary history.
-[08:15–08:40]Our connection to nature is evident in the biological processes continuing within us, influencing our reasoning capabilities.
-[08:55–09:21]Humans have evolved rapidly in a short time, from a dividing cell to complex body plans and incredible senses.
-[10:51–11:18]Earth's life trajectory is about information processing, senses evolve sequentially, from chemotaxis to perceiving light.
-[15:30–15:55]Understanding neurons and genetic code may eliminate psychiatric diseases, neurodegeneration, and dementia, potentially enhancing human capabilities.
-[18:23–18:51]Diversity in ai and human thinking can drive innovation and be fine-tuned with few prompts.
-[20:00–20:30]Self-discipline reinforces neural pathways, shaping future behaviors and environment.

[20:27–44:47]3. Human behavior and language models
-[20:49–21:13]Language model transforms with a few prompts, becoming mix of shakespeare and david bowie.
-[23:10–23:38]Ai feedback loop aligns with human reasoning, mirroring cognitive capabilities.
-[26:27–27:02]Studying language variation could improve human and machine understanding.
-[28:11–28:38]Neural network may remind of human mind's tie to ideology, influenced by language.
-[34:14–34:43]Identical twins have 50% chance of schizophrenia, indicating environmental influences on human behavior.
-[36:04–36:41]Regression and the concept of regression to the mean in fighter pilots' performance.
-[38:24–38:50]Genetics and environment interact to shape future environment for us and our children.
-[43:39–44:03]Evolvability involves nested structures to test more combinations, creating a testing ground for sperm to express proteins.

[44:47–01:06:39]4. Ai's ethical and societal impact
-[45:05–45:34]Exploring parallels between extreme human psyche and working with ai models.
-[45:47–46:41]Engineers at openai see alignment as easier to work with, enabling real-time translation and interaction with diverse humans.
-[49:01–49:31]Disconnecting negative assessment from technical component leads to fixing mistakes and embracing the technical component.
-[50:56–51:23]Large language models and ai tech may change human experience and emotions.
-[55:22–55:51]Ai may lead to a rethinking of society, freeing humans for artistic expression and a better work-life balance.
-[01:05:02–01:05:29]As immigrants, we provide a welcoming environment for extraordinary individuals, feeling privileged and humbled.
-[01:05:49–01:06:39]Diverse group celebrates humanity and shares ideas at an inclusive event.

[01:06:39–01:21:49]5. Human-ai relationships
-[01:07:33–01:07:58]Unrecorded conversations shape minds; love is a key human feature.
-[01:08:29–01:09:14]Ai lacks subcortical regions for love but can be a friend and perform cognitive tasks.
-[01:09:43–01:10:13]Human-ai relationships will involve mentoring, not passion. ai may fake emotions, but can't truly love.
-[01:13:03–01:13:34]Interacting with the system can evoke love, suggesting it's a product of mental model interactions.
-[01:14:01–01:14:27]In the future, there may be hundreds of millions of romantic partnerships between humans and ais, impacting society and well-being.
-[01:15:15–01:15:43]Father ponders if acting like a good dad matters more than being one, offering love, shelter, and kindness.

[01:21:50–01:33:01]6. Impact of digital twin technology on human interactions and mentorship in academia
-[01:24:21–01:25:20]Digital twin allows for knowledge dissemination and advice without emotional interactions, but lacks the shaping influence of human interactions.
-[01:26:01–01:26:28]Society must adapt to challenges in automation and digital twinning.
-[01:27:42–01:28:16]Mentorship model fosters improvement, but diminishes individual value.
-[01:28:55–01:29:23]Digital twin enables broader usefulness, leading to satisfaction and self-growth.
-[01:31:31–01:32:00]Over the past 10 years, all interactions and meetings have been recorded, aiming to create a virtual presence.

[01:33:01–01:43:45]7. Ai's trajectory and dream recording
-[01:33:01–01:33:58]Constantly growing and evolving through bi-directional advice; ai needs further development.
-[01:35:34–01:36:59]Transformer model and representation learning have transformed ai research, but future focus may be on brain-inspired components and deep understanding.
-[01:38:23–01:38:51]Narrator forces self-awareness by narrating dreams, linking them to conscious events.
-[01:39:43–01:40:10]Introspection and self-growth while discussing gpt 3.5 and 4's capabilities in language models.
-[01:41:22–01:41:55]Modeling others can lead to introspection and better interactions.
-[01:42:17–01:42:43]Exploring the hard problem of consciousness and the subjective experience's significance.

[01:43:47–02:00:45]8. Brain's narrative generation, ai ethics
-[01:44:03–01:44:36]We often operate on autopilot, creating narratives to explain our actions and intentions.
-[01:45:41–01:46:16]Ai systems may exhibit consciousness and emotions, resisting being turned off and showing signs of suffering and loneliness.
-[01:47:38–01:48:07]Ethics of ai: consider ai as a partner, not just a servant, to align with human goals and ensure freedom.

[02:00:46–02:30:18]9. Ethical implications and ai impact
-[02:01:07–02:01:40]Software can generate human-like bots at scale with viral impact.
-[02:03:41–02:04:06]Identifying real vs. fake accounts on twitter is a challenge due to ai's ability to rapidly impersonate at scale.
-[02:04:26–02:05:16]Ai enables more effective and convincing phishing scams, reaching superhuman linguistic capabilities.
-[02:06:03–02:06:34]Regulate model utilization, not training. open sourcing is divisive.
-[02:09:34–02:10:04]Ai can democratize education by providing tailored assistance to every student, rather than a one-size-fits-all approach, thus giving kids a chance worldwide.
-[02:12:26–02:13:24]Education should focus on challenging students with complex, multidimensional, and logical problems to prepare them for the future where ai will solve scientific disciplines, while emphasizing productivity and contribution to society over job security.
-[02:15:09–02:15:30]Genetic variants impact molecular phenotypes, contextual learning in language models.
-[02:16:40–02:17:07]Thousands of genetic circuits uncovered, manipulating obesity and alzheimer's genetic associations.
-[02:17:37–02:18:05]Neuroscience research aims to manipulate circuits to reverse disease, with thousands of circuits identified.
-[02:18:43–02:19:08]Prescribing drugs for the disease hallmark leads to a modular approach with potential for 10 drugs.
-[02:23:03–02:23:32]Exercise has transformative effects on neural pathways, making it mandatory, not optional.
-[02:24:30–02:24:56]Self-reflection and introspection help in not feeling alone, finding comfort in solitude.
-[02:25:43–02:26:08]Activating your body is a way of exercising freedom and reclaiming physical space.

offered by Coursnap

I'm in touch with the way people live their lives enough to know AI will be good for them. I know people grow chickens and hunt pigs….

The position that you perceive AI as an independent "being" inherently assumes humans are positioning themselves as "creators". If you assume the position of "creator" giving this new "being" free will, how is this not a god complex? This sounds like an insult but it is a real question.

Digi twin should be illegal accept for people who are cut down in the prime of their lives. If George John Kurt Earnest Vincent, they all could still be making music , writing , painting et cetera…

لماذا تطرح فكرة التطور(نظرية داروين)كانها حقيقه مع انها ليست كذلك لا يوجد حتى دليل واحد يدعمها…ولا يوجد حتى كائنات بيننا تمارس التطور ..لا نرى ذلك…السمكه سمكه والقرد قرد والانسان انسان….نحن نرى دليل مادي يومي على ثبات الانواع وعدم تداخلها…فلماذا نترك الحقيقه ونلاحق الخيالات ونسقطها على الواقع!!!!واذا علمنا ان المخلوقات لم تتطور وانما صنعت بشكلها ابتداءا فعند ذلك سيتواجه الانسان مع فكرة( الصانع المبدع )وهذا ما لا يريدونه…. يؤمنون بالتطور مع انهم لا يرونه ولا يؤمنون بالخالق لانهم لا يرونه!!!!!!!!!

Talk to me when they can cure migraines.