Is Property Damage Ever Justified?

By your own description of that summer riding and looting went literally unnoticed by the wealthy people whose lives were utterly untouched by it and it had a massive impact on the people that were living in the community. So I feel like that is completely at odds with the conclusion you came to that it had some sort of impact on society and made force people to have to confront uncomfortable truths. It seems like what from what you described it only inconvenienced and brought fear and devastation to the community without having any impact on the people that it was trying to get to pay attention. I just feel like your personal anecdote here can't be reconciled with the rest of the video.

…I believe I had moved out of mpls proper by this time and was living in a mpls suburb with my mother and her bf…he was clutching his ar-15 and muttering stuff about roaming zombie hoards.😂😂😂 I was more concerned about some innocent pizza boy getting tagged.

Answer: yes

to me, the Kimberly Clark fire is no different than the Boston Tea Party

we have a country now where the wealthy have the power, and they squeeze us for everything they can get, and we have a government siding, not with the people, but with the corporations and with the wealthy against us. If we can hold up the tea party as a moment of patriotism and rebellion against a tyrannical government, we are hypocrites if here and now in this moment we condemn this fire.

also just from my own community as a gay person, we celebrate every year the anniversary of the property destruction we did in New York, LA, and San Francisco in the wake of the raids on the Stonewall Inn in a little event called Pride, and this is an event that despite being destructive to capital in its time, has now been embraced by capitalists to make a quick dollar off our community. And still prominent though less overtly celebrated, many here in San Francisco remember the White Night Riots where we as gay people rioted and did property damage in the wake of Dan White being acquitted for his murder of Harvey Milk, and in this period in history we remember this not as much for the destruction caused, but as a moment where LGBT people stood up and we weren't going to allow the state to sanction our murder at the hands of whoever hates us enough and then excuses it by saying they had too much sugar that day.

I agree with you that this is all a grey area, but at the end of the day I take violence against property, especially capital and insured property, as being no where near as big a deal as the violence capitalists and right wingers cause against our bodies and our people every single day

Let’s be real: it isn’t violence, it’s self-defense.

The only way to get the attention of those in power is to punch them in their pocketbook as that is the ONLY thing they pay attention to.

do an amazon warehouse next

Property can be replaced. People can't

didnt watch the video at all but in response to the title thumbnail, its better than killing people, and still catches attention, so honestly i think its better in every way

Not only was MLK questioning non violent action when he was murdered by the US government, he was also questioning publicly capitalism AND Isreal’s genocide in Gaza

America was not founded on capitalism. It was founded on it's people and freedom from dictatorship who taxed us and hurt us. Now we are under attack from these people and have been so for a long time. Fuck capitalism, let them burn.

YES, absolutely justified. We the people must do anything required to throw off the shackles placed on us by people telling us private property is sacred as they hoard everyone else's wealth in their little castles. Burn it all down

"Maybe, perhaps, better use"

No.
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Just look at historical wealth distribution by race. It’s been relatively stagnant for every race in America EXCEPT FOR WHITE PEOPLE lol. Sorry I only laugh cuz I’m nuts.

Capitalists:
1. Buy a warehouse
2. Fill it with paper products
3. Don't install sprinklers or a fire suppression system
4. …
5. PROFIT!?!!

It's so obvious that our government and law enforcement prioritizes property over people. You call the fire department because a building is on fire? That's free. You call the cops to stop a burglary? That's free. But if you need an ambulance in a medical emergency? That's gonna cost ya.

Punishing property damage protest with up to life in prison sounds like a really good way to get a whole lot worse things than property damage to happen to these companies if the perpetrators are gonna face life either way

If only there was some extremely easy thing for these multi-million dollar corporations could do to prevent it, it's a shame this guy didn't I dunno, tell them like five times in the video how they might prevent it, that would just be too convenient I guess

Republicans value money and goods more than the lives of other humans??? And the sky is blue too????

6:53 does that apply to the Jan 6 ers?

Property is not the same as a human life. I will never understand people who are opposed to such means of protest. I believe property damage is absolutely justified; I would just stray from local businesses. Big corporations though? Go fucking wild

If you've exhausted every other option, which looking at the past decade, we most DEFINITELY have, then yes, property damage is justified. I get that some people find it scary, but it is important to realize that this is a last resort that people were pushed to. Personally I will never criticize people who loot or cause property damage.

Sure, I'll say leave the small businesses alone, but if you hit a Walmart, Target or any MAJOR corporations, they can take it. Plus I'd argue doing so can redirect people to local businesses that can provide for them rather than the corporation, which can create more unity & collective organizing opportunities, bringing communities together.

Carrot and stick. Peaceful protests are the carrot, riots and property damage are the stick.