Interview: From T. rex to Birds with Steve Brusatte | Particles of Thought
Steve Brusatte has the dirt on dinosaurs and joins Hakeem to trace the full 100-million-year history of the tyrannosaur dynasty, the asteroid that ended it, and the remarkable truth that dinosaurs never actually disappeared. One small lineage survived to become every bird alive today, and Steve walks through the long and contested scientific history of how we came to understand that connection. He also shares what it was like to serve as the official paleontology consultant on the Jurassic World films, and how to find the balance between science and cinema.
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Steve Brusatte is a paleontologist at the University of Edinburgh, where he leads a research group studying dinosaur evolution and the history of life on Earth. He is the author of several acclaimed books, including The Rise and Fall of the Dinosaurs and The Story of Birds, and has served as a paleontology consultant on the Jurassic World film franchise. He will be featured in NOVA’s upcoming five-part documentary series Evolution, coming fall 2026.
Particles of Thought is hosted by Hakeem Oluseyi, an astrophysicist, author, STEM educator, multi-patented inventor, science journalist, TV personality, science communicator, and inspirational speaker. His research is based on “hacking stars” to understand our universe better and develop innovative new technologies. Oluseyi’s work has resulted in 11 patents and more than 100 publications covering contributions to astrophysics, cosmology, and plasma physics and the development of space missions, observatories, focal plane instruments, detectors, semiconductor manufacturing, and ion propulsion.
Chapters
00:00:00 T. rex Family Tree
00:30:33 How Dinosaurs Became Birds
00:59:01 Is Jurassic World Scientifically Accurate?
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@olmo-c9e
July 2, 2026 at 10:37 pm
always great conversations packed with info
@beepboop204
July 2, 2026 at 10:37 pm
thanks! appreciate it
@priscillawrites6685
July 2, 2026 at 10:37 pm
Thank you for this fascinating conversation. My dad was a well known avian epidemiologist at the USDA. Wish he were alive today to read the latest research about birds evolving from dinosaurs. I eat breakfast every morning listening to and watching my favorite ‘dinosaurs:’ songbirds, corvids, and raptors.
@brentmccollister
July 2, 2026 at 10:37 pm
Stephen, if you were on the most recent Jurassic World movie with Jonathan Bailey, how could you let them call a mosasaur and pterosaur dinosaurs?!
@eyesotherworldly
July 2, 2026 at 10:37 pm
Mr. Brusatte, I love your work!! The new book is amazing, but I so wish you were doing the audio book narration yourself. You are a wonderful, engaging speaker, and I don't think the narrator does justice to your writing. Really enjoyed this conversation and looking forward to your next book! Thank you 🦖🐦 ❤
@topspacesource
July 2, 2026 at 10:37 pm
Allosaurus was the real OG Dino. He was around 80 millions before T Rex was even thought of. T Rex was about 10 ft bigger. Great show fellas.😎👍🏿 fun fact! Jupiter slung that 6 Mile asteroid into Earth that killed off the dinosaurs.
@VictorHernandezVH1
July 2, 2026 at 10:37 pm
Another banger Hakeem.
An absolutely entertaining and enlightening conversation.
I'm imagining Triceratop Chicharrones.
@Tahoza
July 2, 2026 at 10:37 pm
The title of this video would be so much more interesting if you removed the colon (:) from it.
@PatrickSmeaton
July 2, 2026 at 10:37 pm
The dinosaur with the most delicious skin is the chicken.
@SaintSean
July 2, 2026 at 10:37 pm
I don't have enough faith to believe in the Theory of Evolution
@matthewlowrey3755
July 2, 2026 at 10:37 pm
Loved the new book Dr. Steve!
@ricktreat
July 2, 2026 at 10:37 pm
I think that the mobility of birds and their small size were the keys to their survival.
@FxLxU
July 2, 2026 at 10:37 pm
Newton's notation or Leibniz notation? Wait, nevermind. It's prehistoric. Definitely Newton's.
@MrBrukmann
July 2, 2026 at 10:37 pm
Still got the bug-eyed cover photo of a black man, totally not racist why worry?