Indigenous Anti-Communism: Haunting Spectre of Ward Churchill w/ Nick Estes
***Producer’s note: TRN Podcast host Nick Estes joined Red Media-produced TYMSYY podcast, hosted by Sardana Nikolaeva and Masha Kardashevskaya, to talk about anti-communism, pretendianism, and the outsized role of Ward Churchill. Subscribe to TYMSYY on your podcast app if you don’t already and help us grow the show***
This is the first installment of our collaborative series on Indigenous Anti-Communism with Nick Estes (https://nickestes.substack.com) of The Red Nation Podcast (https://www.therednation.org/) . In this episode, we first introduce our intentions for the series and discuss why it matters to complicate and systematize the various discourses on anti-communism. We then turn to Ward Churchill (1947-2026), the American author and academic, and his edited volume “Marxism and Native Americans” (1983). Featuring Winona LaDuke, Vine Deloria Jr., Russell Means, and various Marxist writers, the volume became a foundational text for anyone interested in debates over Marxism and its relevance to Native American politics. However, as we learn in this episode, the volume’s history and Ward Churchill’s own legacy may not be as theoretically clear-cut as they seem. Nick Estes illuminates how the volume’s anti-Marxist arguments distorted Indigenous understanding of Marxism and communism, which is reflected in the continued misunderstanding of the histories of anti-imperialist Indigenous solidarities.
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Music: Anastasia Alexxeeva/Анастасия Алексеева – Djohogoj/Дьөһөгөй
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@Earth.is.Mother
September 8, 2026 at 4:10 pm
Any and all forms of centralized government are organized violence.
@SimonAshworthWood
September 8, 2026 at 4:10 pm
Life is way better for Indigenous people (ethnic minorities) in socialist China than it is for Indigenous people in the capitalist USA: not only do Indigenous people in China go to school & manage local govts in both the national language & their own local language, but also street signs in their areas have their own language on them & so does the national currency. Plus China's govt supports local cultural expression with funding & infrastructure support. Plus ethnic minorities in China don't need scores as high as Han Chinese people to qualify for university. Plus the govt outlaws hatespeech against ethnic minorities.
#CapitalismFails #SocialismWorks
@End_Colonial_Epstein_Regimes
September 8, 2026 at 4:10 pm
Kia Ora, FAR OUT! What a great convo for greater context. I had no idea of Ward Churchill or the Pretendian infiltrations of AIM and their disinfo work. Russel Means, Angela Davis etc are assumed to be legit because they are from the people. But the traumas and active disinfo has caused fractures around the world so that it's made hard to discern truth. So that's what happened in the Sandinista affairs!? The mass media and CIA disinfo attacks on Communist and Socialist truths has certainly done a lot of damage. Native, Black, Brown people are already on the front line – demanding direct action is foolish. Waking up minds is. The European Occupier Populations of North American Colonies need to be exposed to practical New State alternatives that centre Native Sovereignty in whatever form works for the Nations. What is rotten to me is that the European Colonial Marxists have willingly internalised the patronising and infantilising views of the Militant Pretendian Booksellers. So much so that they have become Militant Left Booksellers and Subscription fighters without any State Plans at all. Content with Personality Wars. When the rest of the World screams for Turtle Island to take action. Those fractures have filtered down this way too, not like we're perfect. Stay Strong, most couldnt endure what you do. But this Colonial Era needs to end.
@alexanderleuchte5132
September 8, 2026 at 4:10 pm
An aspect worth to engage critically with is that Marxism is rooted in the Western Enlightenment, drawing heavily on its rationalism, belief in human progress.. While Karl Marx radically reinterpreted these ideas, his framework built directly upon the intellectual foundations laid by 18th-century European thinkers.
And there is definitely a Western Supremacist streak of "Brocialists" who heavily build their political identity on that
Personally i have a lot of issues with the Western modern conception of Progress but they overlap actually a lot of with my scepticism to any idea of "going back" to a sn earlier stage
@diotimaperplexa
September 8, 2026 at 4:10 pm
I learned a lot!! thank you
@samg9010
September 8, 2026 at 4:10 pm
Thank you all, this was fantastic and illuminating! Looking forward to future discussions
@Peppermint2017
September 8, 2026 at 4:10 pm
I would like to read a book about the Indiginism of the American Indian.
@Megamuser
September 8, 2026 at 4:10 pm
I turn to indigenous voices and thinking to parse out all the bullsh)t,,I never understood the allure of Churchill,,the white "left' scenesters worshipped him..
@jimhere1
September 8, 2026 at 4:10 pm
Thanks for the context and background regarding Means' speech. I agree with it BTW. I also knew that Ward was a pretenDn.
@BillyFudd-u4y
September 8, 2026 at 4:10 pm
White dude with res school graduate fave auntie.
It seems to me that Louis Riel took a walk in the woods and Karl Marx took a walk in the streets and they met at the tangents. Solidarity forever!
@bermuda-m3i
September 8, 2026 at 4:10 pm
Churchill came to speak at my university. While he was very loud and animated, he managed to not deliver one coherent thought.
@culture88
September 8, 2026 at 4:10 pm
thank you so much for this conversation. I appreciate it very much.
@paulstacey7814
September 8, 2026 at 4:10 pm
'False consciousness' won them zero friends
@edyalvarez818
September 8, 2026 at 4:10 pm
I’m a chicano Maoist in Los Angeles – I think the conversations around the universality of Marxism and its historical shortcomings in addressing indigenous questions around the world are necessary, especially in the US. I’m gonna pick up your book Nick. I also need to check out that Fourth World book. One of the biggest shortcoming of the communist parties and orgs in the US is a failure to take native struggles seriously despite our lip service and even actual mutual aid and mass work that communists have engaged in with indigenous First Nations. That has to change if we are ever to have a revolution. My friend Ernesto Ayala from La Raza Unida party (a chicano Party) has shown me the statements of solidarity that the International Indian Treaty Council would write about the Chicano struggle in the 1980s. I think those types of documents are useful in understanding the long standing solidarity work between Chicanos and First Nations.
@howwitty
September 8, 2026 at 4:10 pm
There's gotta be some way to have this conversation without suctioning the roof of one's mouth to punctuate a thought with a post alveolar click
@j.KyōkaSuigetsu鏡花水月98
September 8, 2026 at 4:10 pm
This sellout and traitor doesn't speak for…. No One..
@oliviakahlo1
September 8, 2026 at 4:10 pm
“Little Eichmanns” elicits the legendary philosopher Hannah Arendt’s analysis of “the banality of evil”. It’s my opinion that the Regents at the University of Colorado, Boulder, were looking for any reason to silence critics of the Wolfowitz doctrine of the Bush era, and of course the larger dialogue around Empire and the Imperial boomerang. Funny that the establishment of current moment has found a new peg to hang its hat on- Hasan Piker.
Of course this misses the rest of the story of Churchill you discuss here. I was a student at CU Boulder when this was going down. I really only knew of the most superficial “scandal” around this teacher, nothing of the larger problem you discuss here. So this is really interesting to learn.
@gundersons1
September 8, 2026 at 4:10 pm
These public conversations are a great pleasure and treasure
@shaytheo
September 8, 2026 at 4:10 pm
An interesting, long conversation. Always great to hear Nick talk about context. What I'm left with is the idea that "primitive" means anachronistic, which puts anyone with that label, in any situation with that label, into a museum, and we know that museums are static places. So if people who are claiming their own cultural and religious identities don't have the freedom to do that without being labeled Primitive, they become wax figures in their own lives?
@LaLasta
September 8, 2026 at 4:10 pm
🙌🏽❤
@CrackheadOwen
September 8, 2026 at 4:10 pm
I'm just waiting until this talk isn't considered a subculture/counterculture
@420bpms
September 8, 2026 at 4:10 pm
Rest in power Comrade, Ward Churchill! Uhuru!
@buck13horn
September 8, 2026 at 4:10 pm
Illuminating discussion re the role of W. Churchill and R. Means in the division of AIM and its relationship to the Sandinistas as well as re native class consciousness, which needs so much more attention from Marxist-Leninists. Thanks!
@edwardanderson1053
September 8, 2026 at 4:10 pm
Also I knew Raul Salinas, who ran La Resistencia Book store in Austin, Tx. and spoke on behalf of the Dakota at the UN. Interesting person mi, might be worth some research.
@daniel.theManualLaborer1917
September 8, 2026 at 4:10 pm
“Marxism-Leninism taught me what society was. I was like a blindfolded man in a forest, who doesn’t even know where north or south is." -Fidel