How R.E.M. Became The Preeminent College Rock Band (And Then Graduated)
When they started, R.E.M. were no one’s idea of a sure thing. Every decision they made flew in the face of common sense. After a nightmare supporting the Police in 1983, they vowed no more high profile support slots. No to American Bandstand because frontman Michael Stipe was uncomfortable lip-syncing. Additionally Stipe was so terminally shy he could barely form a sentence in interviews and mumbled his lyrics into the mic. And yet step by stumbled step, with their chiming bristling cryptic alternative pop they became the US underground’s great hope. By 1987’s Document they even blundered into a misunderstood pop hit. Idealistic and awkward in equal measure, this is the story of R.E.M. and how the preeminent college rock band graduated.
#rem #alternativerock #musicdocumentary
Fact-checking by Chad Van Wagner.
00:00 Introduction
00:51 Murmur & Reckoning
09:06 Fables Of The Reconstruction
14:48 Lifes Rich Pageant
19:14 Document
27:02 The Aftermath of Document
Soundtrack
Luar – Citrine (https://soundcloud.com/luarbeats)
Jesse Gallagher – The Golden Present
Luar – Anchor (https://soundcloud.com/luarbeats)
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Sources
Part Lies Part Heart Part Truth Part Garbage 1982 – 2011 Liner Notes by REM, 2011, Warner Bros Records
Document Reissue Liner Notes by David Daley, 2012. Warner Bros Records
“R.E.M.: Four Guys Bucking For The Sainthood” Barney Hoskyns, NME, Apr 1984
“The Reckoning of R.E.M.” Don Snowden, Los Angeles Times, Jul 1984
“R.E.M.: Return Of The Rickenbackers” Sandy Robertson, Sounds, Dec 1984
“R.E.M.: Tales from the Black Mountain” Helen Fitzgerald, Melody Maker, Apr 1985
“I’m a Miserable Romantic. I’m saddened by what’s happened to this century” Allan Jones, Melody Maker, Jun 1985
“R.E.M.’s Southern-Fried Art” David Fricke, Rolling Stone, Nov 1985
“R.E.M.: Deconstructing The Fables” Edwin Pouncey, Sounds, Oct 1986
“R.E.M.: Visions Of Glory” Barry Walters, Spin Magazine, Oct 1986
“R.E.M.: Notes From Near Normal Town” J. Kordosh, Creem, Nov 1986
“R.E.M. on Their ‘Weird, Loose’ Album ‘Document’” Anthony DeCurtis, Rolling Stone, Aug 1987
“To Me, America in 87 is Disneyworld” Mat Smith, Melody Maker, Sep 1987
“REM and 10,000 Maniacs: Rulers Of The Campus” Mark Cooper, The Guardian, Sep 1987
“Berets from Mars! R.E.M. Eat The Document” Karen Schlosberg, Creem, Dec 1987
“R.E.M: America’s Best Rock and Roll Band” Steven Pond, Rolling Stone, Dec 1987
“Miles Copeland: “Make sure you write what a nasty S.O.B. I am”” Rob Tannenbaum, Musician, Mar 1988
“I’m Only Gonna Be Here 80 Years, Why Not Thoroughly Embarrass Myself?” Steve Sutherland, Melody Maker, Oct 1988
“R.E.M.: The Year Of Living Quietly” Tony Paris, Spin Magazine, Feb 1989
“R.E.M.’s Brave New World” Anthony DeCurtis, Rolling Stone, Apr 1989
“R.E.M.: Post-Yuppie Pop” Jon Savage, The Observer, May 1989
“Q&A: R.E.M.” David Fricke, Rolling Stone, Nov 1990
“Reconstruction Time Again” Gavin Martin, NME, Mar 1991
“Michael Stipe: The Rolling Stone Interview” David Fricke, Rolling Stone, Mar 1992
“R.E.M.: Plink! Plink? Plink!” Mat Snow, Q Magazine, Oct 1992
“Fables of the Four-Headed Monster” Dave DiMartino, Jim Irvin and Mark Ellen, Mojo Magazine, Nov 1994
“Feeling Gravity’s Pull: R.E.M has become America’s answer to The Beatles” Anthony DeCurtis, Rolling Stone, Jun 1995
“Patti and me” Michael Stipe, Mojo Magazine, Aug 1996
“Be Seeing You?” Barney Hoskyns, Mojo Magazine, Aug 1996
“Reconstruction Of The Fables” Vic Garbarini, Guitar World, Nov 1996
“World Leaders Pretend” Jon Wilde, Uncut Magazine, Dec 2001
“Captains of Industry” Keith Cameron, Mojo Magazine, Jul 2003
“We Didn’t Really Know What We Had Done” David Stubbs, Uncut Magazine, Nov 2003
“R.E.M. invade the UK, 1985” Roy Wilkinson, Mojo Magazine, Feb 2015
“Thought That I Heard You Sing: The Apotheosis of R.E.M.” Tom Doyle, Mojo Magazine, Dec 2016
“Maps & Legends” Michael Bonner, Uncut Magazine, Jun 2025
“The story of the anti-war commentary disguised as a four-minute pop song that set R.E.M. on the path to global success and stardom” Rob Hughes, Louder, Feb 2026
@TrashTheory
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
Every now and then I get people asking for a playlist of every song mentioned in my videos: Well here's a Apple Music link for this one:
https://music.apple.com/gb/playlist/80s-rem-playlist/pl.u-WabZpaPcez5v0Wk
and the YouTube Music one:
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLooaZ33lSalcptHPW9yvaMoYW9SJMzKOF&si=CASt2F_gXag3Glj4
@pdzombie1906
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
Tube in for the next episode!!!
@dimone
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
Favorite album with an apostrophe?
Who’s Next by The Who
@thedalillama
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
18:47 That's Bryan Adams. What's the tie in?
@thedalillama
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
Stewart Copeland's brother managed The Police and founded R.E.M's record label. Hence, the touring together.
@comrade_crab
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
"The 1985 Pazz and Jop Critics Poll" – NOTED! Do I get a prize?
By the way, there should be an… you know, an, um… an APOSTROPHE after the S in 'Critics'.
@andymonserud9029
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
Idk if they're favorites, but "never mind the bollocks, here's the sex pistols" and "give 'em enough rope" feel like they should have been on Buck's radar.
@andymonserud9029
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
I've long theorized that "the one I love" references, or at least is inspired by, Kurt Vonnegut's Slaughterhouse V. Never found anything outside the lyrics to support it, but there are a lot of emotional and literal similarities.
@pmottaz
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
“(What’s the Story) Morning Glory?” has an apostrophe and way too many non-letters (:
@mysterbear
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
Help!
@enkidude
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
cool albums dont have punctuation says the band with three periods in their name
@Scotttyist
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
Pazz and Jop? So what?
@magicsav6901
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
Can't lie the play onto words at the end was quality, put a smile on my face and definitely left me wanting a part 2, good work sir
@citehman
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
Step 1 – listening to the college campus radio station on Sunday night where they rarely gave band names or song titles
Step 2 – wait for the next album of theirs to come out, only after reading reviews and the haters start to take a bite
Step 3 – try to be first, if not bribe the used record shop guy, to find new rem live bootleg records before your friends
Step 4 – finally getting a Sony walkman and listening to Harborcoat while walking across campus
Step 5 – drive 4 hours to Philadelphia, DC and Virginia to see their shows
Step 6 – nervous anticipation that MTV might destroy your favorite band
Step 7 – watch the band earn the big money and show Green can be a major success while still holding that it factor
Step 8 – step 8, step 8, I forgot what 8 was for… but…
Step 9 – make my peace with letting the band grow as artists while I stick to the first 6 albums
Step 10 – listening to the IRS songs on a weekly basis now 40 years later
@TheAdArchive
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
Loved this episode. Thank you so much. I’m lucky enough to be seeing Michael Shannon perform
Lifes Rich Pageant later this year.
@theoakmontsage1172
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
If they'd just called it quits after Automatic for the People…
And There's a Riot Goin' On has TWO apostrophes!
@dubdaze68
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
Man, that end was too soon. Lol.
@GreenLepidolite
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
I could listen to episodes about this era in music forever.
First beloved apostrophe albums that comes to mind is Bon Iver, Bon Iver and For Emma, Forever Ago.
@trumanb4758
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
Bro, you never miss with your videos. Every one I've watched about bands and subjects I'm interested in has been superb. With every new video I you release I always ask for one about Dinosaur Jr. and I'm asking again now; but could you also do one about the C86 era in the UK? I'm talking about bands like The Woodentops (not on the tape but pivotal), early Soup Dragons, Wedding Present, Mighty Lemon Drops, Stump, Pastels etc. These guys were instrumental in moving the indie scene forward in the mid-eighties in the UK and it seems like it's a forgotten time in Indie music history. I'm old and was there at the time and loved some of these guys (espcially The Woodentops and The Wedding Present). I would really like to get some background on some of these very influential UK bands. Also, perhaps do one on John Peel too?
@daviddalrymple2284
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
In my small Canadian market, the singles from "Document" didn't become radio staples until after the success of "Out of Time". For many years, I assumed that "The One I Love" was from "Automatic for the People" and "End of the World" was from "New Adventures in Hi-Fi".
@cholling1
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
Frank Zappa – '
@cesararzola8380
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
Discovering those IRS era albums when I was in college was like finding a secret door 🚪 to another world. What came after that is good but with a different vibe
@mohammedganai9636
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
I think REM's success was the first heralding of alternative as a major force. Around the same time "The One I Love" broke, the Cure and New Order scored their first top 40 hits ("Just Like Heaven" and "True Faith" respectively) and had their latest releases go platinum as well. (Depeche Mode also followed suit with Music for the Masses.) The following year, Billboard debuted the then titled Modern Rock Tracks chart, and more quirky acts such as Midnight Oil, the Church and Siouxsie and the Banshees got some decently major exposure.
@singlesideman
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
Thank you for mentioning the aesthetic and spiritual connection between R.E.M. and The Smiths. Even before I played this video I was thinking about their affinity…
@charlesamoshorn
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
This was so good.
@joeldukes303
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
No thanks. Worst of the worst.
@singlesideman
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
Wings places? They didn't even exist until the nineties.
@jonothanthrace1530
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
Favorite apostrophized album? Probably Apostrophe (').
@jombeemeanstroke
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
I don't even really like R.E.M. but this was a great watch.
@damianlopez-gaston2466
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
It beats repeating, Trash Theory is such an outstanding channel and the production is great. Taken together, it's an amazing body of work.
@louiswhistler751
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
Great work as always. It’s also interesting to see that a lot of old live footage comes from German television, because they used to have a lot of great music programs and coverage of life performances, like the BBC
@utubeisCensorred
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
The world's most self-righteous and pretentious band. I remember my best friend in the 90's loved them, we had a band in the South in the mid 90's. I liked some of their earlier stuff when they wrote songs about trains but by the time they hit big with Everybody Hurts they were pretty much bankrupt of ideas. I always enjoyed that Morrissey snubbed Michael Stipe. He was always the worst thing about REM.
@omind1
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
Popular? Sure. Maybe the US corrilary to The Smiths. And just as useless to rock music or history. Their generation of pale- as-F! Folk rock. Pouring water into the Soft Boys cream. Skim at best.
@werners5191
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
I really enjoy many REM songs, but Fall on Me and Driver 8 are the two I absolutely need in my life.
@andynowicki4532
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
There is nothing to misunderstand.
@florinivan6907
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
People misinterpreting 'The one I love' reminds me of Patrick Bateman taking 'Hip to be square' at face value. Instead of it mocking yuppie culture.
@TCB113
March 19, 2026 at 10:56 pm
Reckoning is my favorite
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