Final thoughts on Johnathan Majors

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@Rayanaman44
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
This is the horror of being a non-white woman, you have to live with the violence of your community and also protect your community from the violence of the racist system… but the problem always come from the same place patriarchy and white heterosexism and racism, not from non-white men. Thanks for the video ! ❤
@LBYRNTH_
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
It's so interesting and valuable to hear your take on wanting to see the good in these Black male celebrities while reconciling how so many of them turn out to be abusers in the end as I feel it mirrors my experienced detaching from the Black male rappers of my youth as a growing Black gay adult realizing most of them have showed signs of not wanting people like me to exist. The disenchantment with these men in these entertainment industries just always seems inevitable. It's something I don't think I'll ever be able to truly come to terms with. Thank you for your perspective.
@Mrmann-zs3jr
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
Why do you think the Jonathan major is an abuser?
@equasimilione6493
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
So final, he still hasn't fixed the typo in the title…
@TalentedAndHot
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
0:58 lmaoo
@ThomasVanHoesenDeadpooliscool
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
Women lie, Men lie, women abuse men, men abuse women, the courts are corrupt and everything is grey asf. It’s never as simple as believe all women or all men. What happens behind closed doors is always almost impossible to prove and it’s super tragic and a lot of times we just should try not forming an opinion at all maybe, especially in cases like this where it seems like both parties had a lot of toxic shit going on.
@presidentmeeks1656
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
This case is a message to Black men across the globe to stop bunny hopping
@presidentmeeks1656
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
This Snow bunny destroyed this man whole career because she found out he was seeing another man even tho they broke up and she said if I can’t have him then I will destroy his entire career because it’s my word against a Black man that’s what happened
@NateDogg2888
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
I also wanted him to succeed. Damn
@urbanrenaissanceman3913
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
I hate how much he got us to love him
@The-Fergusons
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
Good points, I don’t agree with all, but good points to some.
@amybutcher6827
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
I enjoyed Jonathan Majors' work but accept the facts of the case. I too grapple with how many people whose work I have to re-evaluate my relationship with because of the social harm they have caused. It is not fun and it is not something to celebrate. All of the loss involved here is a tragedy on many levels.
@obiomachukwuocha4918
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
For me, this was always complicated. In real life old relationships can get messy and toxic. Through time and experience, SOMETIMES both parties can grow into better people. Not excusing his actions, but I do wonder how this being public makes him as black man be perceived.
In this instance, idk. If i were to characterize Majors, he would be that "ugly" black nerd in highschool that, after graduation, went to the gym and became more confident and successful. However, never worked on their toxic masculinity and how with great power/fame comes responsibility. Its like his head was gassed with his success. With what i heard, he sounds like he's definitely emotionally abusive and wanted a passive white girl that he could manipulate. Kinda like your Kanye video. Its like he surrounded himself with yes-women that he could manipulate but wanted the hand-off, independence, respectability that confident woman (often times POC) can provide like "Coretta" and "Michelle."
He wanted great women but not women that would check and look at him now. 🤦🏿♂️
I do feel for him in some instances like when he ran from her. I do feel like he was running for his life because as a black man, the words of a white woman can be a death sentence.
But i was rooting for him at first. I was surprised that he got fired because the charges that he WAS found guilty on were VERY light. I honestly believe if he was white, he would've been fine. I feel like a white man would need a video of himself beating a woman plus 50 women to come out with their abuse stories. However, a black needs a video of him pushing her into a car and running away from her and gets fired. I'm not saying he's a good guy, hes an asshole. I think Disney cut him not because of what he did but in fear of the worse things that he could do in the future. Basically like a bad investment. But if he were white, they would say it was a bad quarter and keep their stocks.
@TheAntiburglar
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
The refusal to believe women is wild. I was going to Purchase College from 2012 to 2015 and at some point during my time there Iggy Azalea came to perform. Some dude tried to touch her (I'm being vague so as not to upset anyone reading) WHILE SHE WAS ON STAGE and literally NOTHING happened. This world, as wonderful as it can be, is so fucked on so many levels
@Littlestraincloud
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
1. Your hair looks awesome, whatever you're doing, it's working.
2. I don't think that, "I was rooting for this person and I wish they were better, but they're not and that's disappointing." should be a hot take or taken as an offensive thing to say. I was rooting for JMajors, it sucks that he's proven himself to be unworthy of our hope and support.
3. F'real there should have been more consequences on Brad Pitt slapping his son around on that plane.
4. It is super weird how many dudes start dickriding as soon as a man is called out for abuse
@tarenflores
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
Woohoo Badu instrumental backing track. Have you ever done a video about her? Maybe it’s not needed bc she’s blissfully irrelevant right now but I feel she has an interesting career and aesthetic
@erinbranscome7015
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
I appriciated this video a lot. This helps contextualize some of the discussion I've been seeing.
@Alucard-A-La-Carte
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
Goddamn, this bummed me out. The man was onscreen with two incredible actors at the end of Loki and he was acting absolute CIRCLES around them. It's sad that it shook out like this.
@Sensei_BigJoe
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
Man, you know how the internet… ok the media in general is, all nuanced or comparativly complicated opinions are pushed aside. Its sad and upsetting to watch another dude get taken down and its sad and upsetting that he completely deserves it. Thats not a sensational take just like the myriad of other complicated topics that a story like this should (but never does) bring up.
@the-lil-x
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
Damn and when you can tell a man wasnt raised by his father… And he then says exactly that… In his kendrick video i know studying psychology paid off
@zoesimmons9929
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
9:54 this is the tea, at the end of the day our criminal justice system isnt about protecting victims but about punishment and we all know they dont wanna punish white men
@Sarah-re7cg
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
Kanye
Kosby
Kelly
💀💀💀💀
@Sarah-re7cg
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
The thing that’s so infuriating is how it is a fact that it’s so fucked up that black guys will be getting treated more harshly than white guys in the public sphere and the in court, but without that recognition of intersectionality, it’ll make other black guys (and some black women) want to double down on stanning whoever famous black celebrity is currently on trial (court or public opinion). I love that you mentioned holding space for Majors’ fans. It’s disappointing af.
@Sarah-re7cg
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
“Good luck with that, gentlemen” couldn’t have said that better myself tbh
@NonyaBiz-f1e
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
❤that Badu ft sa-ra instrumental in background … Good points too
@professorhazard
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
3:56 GAH
not cool bro
@adfggffffffddffd
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
I can't figure out what Majors was guilty of doing. I'm so confused…
@gingergreek
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
WTF. I swear I was subbed to this channel and YT kicked me off. Yet another left wing channel YT kicking me off of.
@justlikeametaphor7291
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
Honestly I feel the same way not just with Johnathan Majors but with a lot of contemporary conversations online. I guess it's just how social media is, but online, people always expect you to swing hard for one side or the other, and it always feels dangerous if you don't. If you try to express nuance or authenticity or an unflattened view that, even if it agrees ultimately, doesn't agree completely or as hard as they like, they just lump you in with the Them in their Us vs Them framework.
I think a big part of it is there's a lot of rhetoric strategy around poisoning the conversation, where bad-faith parties are performing for their peers rather than engaging earnestly, JAQing off, sealioning, virtue signalling, all that. A lot of people have decided the solution is to not have the conversation at all, and it's definitely the safest option. You probably won't get dragged or cancelled if you just repeat what most people are saying, if you smile and nod.
So I appreciate your videos a lot, digging in and sometimes saying the real things that might not fly well even with your own crowd.
@bacarandii
October 13, 2024 at 8:13 pm
I have to admit that, because I admire the talent of Majors and Pitt, I've intentionally avoided coverage of the allegations against them. Maybe that's a moral failure on my part. I don't really want to know much about the off-screen lives of celebrities because I think it's a waste of my time and none of my business — even though I also realize it's part of the whole image-management media-marketing business world we live in.
To be honest, it's also a way of protecting myself. It still hurts when I'm reminded that someone whose public image, at least, I appreciated and looked up to for years (I grew up on Bill Cosby records and "I Spy," long before "The Cosby Show") turns out to be guilty of disgusting behavior off-screen. I'm not denying the truth about them or defending them in any way. I'm just saying that it hurts because, on some level (even if it's an irrational one), it also feels like a kind of personal betrayal.