Every Theory of Consciousness

I honestly don't like that he used a term as broad as "Materialism" for that first category.. because one could interpret all first 5 categories to be forms of materialism too.. (and some of the ones in the 6th one too, like Tegmark). This gives the wrong impression about what Materialism is.. which has nothing to do with not having a "mental property" (if that were the case, then emergentism shouldn't be categorized as materialism either….). And it's made more confusing by having as well "non-reductive physicalism" as category 2 (why not make a "reductive physicalism" category at that point?).

He also does not have a true pure "neutral monism" category… even though the "monism" one has many that could be considered neutral monists.. but it should have been called "NEUTRAL" monism, because all materialists and all idealists are already monists. And for example he's missing Spinoza which should be spearheading the neutral monist section.

Yeah, I don’t understand how materialism feels reductive. Materialism is a tool. Being here and realizing it is WEIRD. Anything you can describe with materialism still WEIRD AS FUCK. It doesn’t matter if we can say that this thing does that thing, everything still WEIRD AS FUCK. Material? Material IS WEIRD! What do you mean material exists? There’s nothing and all of the sudden there are THINGS INTERACTING? People who hate on materialism are looking for something else (a fairytale, maybe?) while we already have everything in the weirdest way possible.

I love you both. My brain fuel!

thank you, what a welcome appearance. hope to see Peter Tse on the podcast at some point. with recent focus on consciousness seems appropriate, he was on Closer To Truth a few times, you really got my hopes up by inviting Kuhn. 🙂

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People just love wasting their time making mysteries for themselves that don't require solutions. Free will can't logically exist (but people want it to, so they work hard to make it a mystery). The "self" is an illusion (but people want their "self" or soul to be real, so they work hard to make it a mystery). Consciousness is simply our sensory input and prediction systems at work, not different in kind from a flatworm detecting and avoiding light (but people want consciousness to be special, so they make it a mystery). We desperately want at least a dash of magic to exist in the world, so we overcomplicate our understanding of the world to justify wasting time by engaging in what amounts to secular magical thinking.

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I see he has Clark's Generic Subjective Continuity in his list if you follow the links on Robert's chart. Clark's essay on GSC is a must read for anyone interested in death in the naturalistic world.

Amazing! Can´t thank you enough!

Watching Spain VS Austria or watch this. Oh my…😢

Gotta get Pete Mandik on.

Now that's a perfect movie night with the hommies

I watch Robert often and rip apart most of his guests, but I always appreciate his willingness to interview everyone.