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Doc McGhee to KISS, “You’d have to go back to doing conventions in Hiltons”

full in bloom | February 25, 2026



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During an interview with VWMusic, legendary manager Doc McGhee talked about KISS.

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https://vwmusicrocks.com/an-interview-with-kiss-manager-doc-mcghee/

https://fullinbloom.com/manager-doc-mcghee-on-kisss-decision-to-create-alter-egos-they-didnt-feel-like-they-could-compete-in-blue-jeans-against-the-rest-2022-interview/

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#KISS #AceFrehley #GeneSimmons #PaulStanley #DocMcGhee #petercriss

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  1. @Ohionortheast

    February 25, 2026 at 12:05 pm

    Been a kiss fan since 77 honestly these guys made music to get chicks and money what’s wrong with that? They get bashed constantly by people who couldn’t right a ten second jingle they are multi millionaires with amazing lives how’s your life? You a millionaire? Your hate is jealousy because they made it and you didn’t

  2. @vistalite

    February 25, 2026 at 12:05 pm

    I saw Ace open for Alice Cooper a year or so ago. He was awful. He looked like he’d rather be anywhere else, plus, he played the worst guitar solo I’ve ever seen played by a “professional” musician. There is no way that Ace would ever be able to keep up with modern KISS. Unfortunately, Tommy’s spaceman imitation is better than anything Ace could muster. Hopefully, the players retire before it gets any worse.

  3. @mattpatterson9128

    February 25, 2026 at 12:05 pm

    Gene is a load mouth fat head, didn't like him in the 80's, still can't stand him. ACE is the man, so much talent in this man, and they tried to destroy him. He's the talent in KISS, or used to be in KISS.

  4. @j-rod6420

    February 25, 2026 at 12:05 pm

    They keep on adding more dates ,fucking up on their backing tracks and stretching the tour out ,this version will be doing 500 seater festivals with Dokken.

  5. @benjaminbaird9303

    February 25, 2026 at 12:05 pm

    Kiss was on fire in the 70's. A fire so hot we still crave it today. People say shit like they weren't the Beatles. But they were. They were 4 guys much arger than the sun of their parts.

  6. @malinwj1167

    February 25, 2026 at 12:05 pm

    Yes, Gene Paul Ace Peter. But am curious about the band's future – can see them being like a pro sports team, and getting new players. Then those people retire, and the "rebuilding" of the team begins. Rinse repeat

  7. @spaceknight793

    February 25, 2026 at 12:05 pm

    Tommy catches so much flak because he's not just playing Ace's licks, he emulates the entire on stage person of Ace. Eric doesn't do that. And listening to Sonic Boom and Monster, I don't hear Peter's drum style or vocals in particular but Tommy's still caged into Ace's sound–and the "space/electricity" themes in the lyrics just screams "copycat." And the truth is probably that Gene and Paul insist on Tommy remaining "Ace 2.0" instead of branching out a bit, projecting his own personality.

  8. @marcribaudo1965

    February 25, 2026 at 12:05 pm

    I saw Kiss only 3 times. My first was at MSG in 1977 and I saw them on the Psycho Circus and finally in 2010. After Alive ll I started listening to heavier stuff. Ace, who didn't want to be him. I went 3 years as Ace for Halloween. Growing up they were my favorites for the 70s. I'm not saying their other album's are bad.

  9. @dmaster4194

    February 25, 2026 at 12:05 pm

    What an insult to anybody with half a brain truly lacking any artistic integrity when doc admits to Thayer being a fake Ace but he’s so good at it.Why don’t you put the real thing onstage instead of a glorified tribute act

  10. @rickmatthis3052

    February 25, 2026 at 12:05 pm

    Kiss as This Original Line Up, from 1973 to 1979, & then again from 1996 to 2000 Has No More To me, Right After The Farewell Tour of 2000 after Peter Criss, & Ace Frehley was no longer with Kiss which Half of the Original 4 Band Members of KISS which is Paul Stanley, Gene Simmons, & then making it with Ace Frehl;ey, & Peter Criss which makes the Original Kiss Band Line Up.

    Todays Kiss, & I Am Going to Type as it is Plain, & Simple. which is :

    Paul Stanley & Gene Simmons Is 1 HALF of the Original Kiss Band Member Line Up.

    Todays So Called Kiss Is Called This, Paul Stanley Lip Sinking / using back tracks, &
    Gene Simmons does not enjoy Even being in Kiss Anymore, Gene is just going through the motions.

    Tommy Thayer that Imposter Dressing Up Like Ace Frehley is Disgusting, & Wrong In Every Way To Ace Frehley, & To Every Ace Frehley Fan.
    Tommy Thayer You should have stood up to Paul Stanley, & Gene Simmons saying this Let Me Make My Own Character,
    & not step into the spotlight of Ace Frehley, dressing Up like Ace Frehley, & doing Ace Frehley Guitar Riffs, & Moves, but OH No Tommy you had to go alone with the $ Bills & then you have degraded Ace Frehley, You Have Degraded Every Single Ace Frehley Fan, & since this does not matter you degraded yourself in being a imposter of Ace Frehley.

    Tommy Thayer, your Not Ace Frehley, & You Never Will Be. For God Love The World, God Brought All of Us The 1, & Only Real Space Man, Space Bear, Which is Ace Frehley.

    Tommy Thayer your just an imposter that is getting money to play the role of Ace Frehely, that Ace Frehley Already Made Famous, in his OWN Way from 1973 to 1982 & then again from 1996 to 2000.

    No For Eric Singer which is the Fake Cat Man, because Peter Criss is the Original Cat Man With 9 Lives, & much more then you will Ever have Eric Singer.
    Eric Singer you should have stood up to Paul Stanley, & Gene Simmons about you making your very own character,
    like Eric Carr, ( R.I.P. ) The 4Ever Fox made his Own Character back in 1979, & Will Always be The Fox to All of the Original KISS Fans, & Vinnie Vincent Made His Own Character called The Ankh, Will Always be his Own Character called The Ankh.

    When Dollar Bills Talk Deception takes place, & you Eric Singer, & Tommy Thayer have both been Guilty of just that by filling another Character that has Already paved its Way in Its Own Success which was Made by these Following Kiss Band Members as Follows ;

    Ace Frehley : The Original Space Man,
    Peter Criss : The Original Cat man,
    Eric Carr ( R.I.P. ) : The Fox,
    Vinnie Vincent :The Ankh

    Gene Simmons, & Paul Stanley Needs to Retire From a Half Band Called Kiss, because The Real Kiss Fans Know that Kiss is Only of these 4 Original Band Members which is : Gene Simmons, Paul Stanley, Ace & Peter Criss or Nothing at All.

    God Bless Ace Frehley, Peter Criss ( Eric Carr ( R.I.P. ), Vinnie Vincent,

    I want a Kiss Phantom of Thje Park Revisted but this time is to have Ace Frehley Take Out Tommy Thayer in the Park on Stage, & Peter Criss to take out Eric Singer on Stage, so that the 4 Original Band Members Can Become 1.

    At least in my thoughts that would Honor & Pay Full Respects to Ace Frehley The Original Space Man, 7
    Peter Criss The Original Cat Man .

    The End of the Road Tour Was Complete at the End of 2000 after Peter Criss, & Ace Frehley was no longer with Gene Simmons, & Paul Stanley which made the 4 Original Band Members fo Kiss that All of The Original Kiss Fan Knows from growing up, & listening to Kiss

    Rock, N Roll All Nite & Tommy Thayer, & Eric Singer Retire Everyday From Kiss, & Stop degrading Ace Frehley, & Peter Criss, this is just a stunt tactic that is bogus, & is un called for on Tommy Thayer, & Eric Singer parts dressing up like 2 other Original Kiss Characters was Already Made back in 1973, & its 2022 which Tommy Thayer Eric Singer, should have Each made there Own Character in 2002 to the present day to be with Kiss, but OH No, Tommy Thayer, & Eric Singer, both showed themselves about each 1 dressing up like what Already has been Made Famous back from 1973..

    My love is For Ace Frehley & Peter Criss, & Never for the 2 imposters that has been dressing up like Ace Frehley & Peter Criss since 2002 to the present day until the so called Kiss Actually Hangs it Up 4Ever.

    Ther Real Kiss Deserves More, which is 1 Final Time of the Original 4 Kiss Band Members Together which is Once again :
    Gene Simmons, Paul Stanley, Ace Frehley, & Peter Criss, & if this does not happen, then Kiss has been dead to me since,
    Ace Frehley, & Peter Criss was no longer with Kiss as of 2000 from the Farewell Tour

  11. @kimbarling4213

    February 25, 2026 at 12:05 pm

    I'm a 55 yr old man.
    I grew up on Kiss in the 70s.
    Loved them my fav " character " was Ace Frehley,he was the sound of kiss.
    The infighting and egos meant they were destined to implode. Sadly at the time of their popularity peak 1978-80. On Dynasty Peter didn't even play the drums !? And was gone by Unmasked the following year !!
    For the past 20+ years and returning to the make up and not writing new music ,Kiss have become their own cover band and karaoke band.
    Paul has stated that the industry now, has made it not financially viable to be successful to write new music ! What a load of Bullshit.
    What he's saying is they've past their best and have nothing left to write about, so they've resorted to being their own greatest hits karaoke band! I mean how Rich do these self absorbed greedy M.Fkrs need ?
    So its about the $$$ ,Not the music ,not the art ???
    FACT!
    And Gene & Paul's ego living in the past when they were a world class band in the 70s.
    To state this End of the road tour retiring " on top of the best of their game "!???
    Is laughable and simply incorrect.
    In the 2020s the musical environment Kiss are irrelevant a carcass of a cover band unable to write new music and evolve.
    Their egos outway their ability to be relevant today. They have proven to be liars. And to be constantly disrespecting Ace and Peter via mainstream and social media is a result of past unresolved bitterness and the fact that 90% of real legacy fans only care about seeing / listening to the original line-up..
    And that both Ace/ Peter have successfully and happily moved on in their lives.
    I mean this tour Paul's been caught out lipsynching !!!
    They should have called it a day for the " Farewell tour " of 2000.
    That would have shown grace and dignity.
    Because they've shown the world that gene and Paul's just cannot handle not being in the public eye.
    This " End of the road " tour will be the same , they'll find some excuse to explain away to still be around!

  12. @WarrenRBrothers

    February 25, 2026 at 12:05 pm

    Carnival of Souls was actually a good grunge album, if they hadn't been Kiss before that and they lived in Seattle they probably would have been hailed as one of the great grunge bands, but because they were Kiss people said oh that's just Kiss trying to go grunge to keep selling records in the grunge era, which was true, but still it turned out surprisingly well.

  13. @nora3507

    February 25, 2026 at 12:05 pm

    Let be honest this manager . Screw over to many bands
    Ac DC and all the have the same sound. Ace. And Peter. Gene and Paul and time to say .retire and goodbye

  14. @Jayflo7

    February 25, 2026 at 12:05 pm

    The KISS Camp and Doc McGhee can spout all that non-sense that they want about how it does not matter who is in the make-up, but it is just that, NON-SENSE! Put two other scabs in Gene and Paul's make up and I guarantee you there will be no big world tours going on. Even with Gene and Paul, KISS has to have another name band on the bill in order to have a successful tour. So spout all the B.S. you want about it does not matter who is in the make-up all you want Doc , Gene and Paul but I and many other KISS fans are not buying the B.S.. All you 3 are doing is sniffing up all the money you can, while it is there to snort. More power to you, but let's call it what it is. You want to talk about Hilton Conventions, go ahead and try that "anyone can wear the make-up gimmick" theory and you will be at a Hilton all right, You will be at the Hilton bar opening up for those silly, no talent Steel Panther Morons.

  15. @billycain9890

    February 25, 2026 at 12:05 pm

    I think Doc McGhee is totally wrong on this if kiss go back get Bruce keep Eric singer put out a new album go back and do a world tour with the hot in the shade or Revenge Stage production at least for a year I think it would be really profitable because kiss fans would want to see it one more time speaking for me and lots of other kiss fans I know this to be true and was after high heels a costumes that would be no limitations they would be better performers

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