I debate a TikTok conspiracy theorist
Remember the Mandela effect? I argue about it and other various nonsense that’s taking over the internet and corrupting the mind of our precious youth.
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@obadaodeh1625
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
This actually was an amazing conversation.
@ScaleZenzi
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
This is so gemmy
@Fafuchess
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
Can't blame you for getting frustrated, the guy clearly had some questions prepared but really didnt listen and/or understand one thing you said? Just kept going with the next thing, not one second spent on trying to understand ypur point lmao
@jerrymacctheukrainanlorema7659
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
6:50 I’ve head of burglar emoji for the first time in my life, constructed it in my mind as a memory, and then, upon hearing it never existed, realised that I’ve used a Sims 1 burglar character icon as a basis for it.
The complete Mandela effect experience.
@HorrorHabit-h7x
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
MJ Patek. Bless his heart, he does try.
@appledinger1121
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
Gravity is just a theory…. Bruhh
@__-cx6lg
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
JJ: Parallel universes are preposterous, and that fact that it's ridiculous is blindingly obvious. People who believe in this are lunatics. Their minds are corrupted.
MJ: "So… do… so do you believe in parallel universes, or you don't?"
💀
@kylehankins5988
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
IDK it is certainly interesting that people tend to “collectively” misremember certain things. Obviously that’s not evidence of a multiverse but there are probably cultural reasons for it. Like in the case of the robber emojee many people are probably surprised it’s not there because the “robber” with a striped shirt ski mask and beanie is a classic character in our culture. As such people’s minds probably just naturally assume it must be an emojee.
For Mandela I believe people “misremembered his death” because while Mandela was heralded as a larger than life figure.
As for Mandela kids learn about him in history class as a larger than life figure, however rarely was Mandela in the news in the 2000s. Some people probably subconsciously assumed he was dead to reconcile that gap.
@bup0898
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
One of my least favourite things about this is the yes-manning. Whenever JJ finishes a statement, MJ never outright disagrees with what he says, or gives any rebuttal to what was said. His response is always something along the lines of "I totally get where you're coming from", or "I totally understand your logic". It annoys me so much that they can't even form any sort of pushback or rebuttal to the contrary ideas they're presented with, yet at the end of the conversation I guarantee that his opinions remain the exact same.
@jackotherstar
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
6:16 “Do you believe in parallel universes?” If you’re talking to JJ that is the most answerable question of all time. Like get real bro come on 😭
@topazlad
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
The kids these days man they don't engage with the points they just give placations in place of arguments
@Clippy_XJ36
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
👨🚀👩🚀🧑🚀 for the memes
@chox7517
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
This just makes me sad 🙁
@matches515
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
JJ is mostly correct. A bit surprised he was an Art Bell listener that had not heard of Lazard.
Conspiracy theories would not exist if conspiracies were never discovered. Or is it chicken and egg?
@czar_moss
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
11:32 ngl i was kinda like damn hes going at him for no reason then he just said "I gotchya" like shit, he didn't listen to a word of that rant
@Jabberwockybird
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
I like to re-watch this video as a reminder of one of the many reasons I am more of a moderate, and I am less "conservatarian" (less libertarian, less rto the right) as I used to be. I hate seeing my peers (not just young ones) believe in conspiracies like contrails being chemtrails.
@CnekYT
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
He sounds like a stereotypical conspiracy theorist LOL, like just the way his voice sounds
@dejus_e
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
🧑🚀 I found it
@SEB1991SEB
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
Your brain knows what a stereotypical robber looks like, and your brain knows what the emoji style looks like, so your brain knows what the emoji robber should look like, so the fact that the robber emoji looks familiar to you is no surprise, and the fact that lots of people would agree on what it should look like, and even mistakenly think that they've seen it before, is no surprise either.
@leonberdot5752
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
I learn so much about Canadian culture from this channel. For example, there's a big difference between
Hello friends 😊 and my friend 💢
@Arathun
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
my sides, i'm wheezing – i did not expect this conversation to get THAT intense
@yellowklayman
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
"put it on in the background" is my primary was to consume content, I think your style of content lends really well to that. I'd love to see what its like when you make something more longform but less visually intensive.
@donraydonziegler
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
When it came to the 2 people that tried to assassinate Trump, even he pushed the conspiracy that "They tried to assassinate him. His Maga followers turned it around that they were Democrats and Trump comes out and says Democrats should tone down violent rhetoric when it was Trump who talked about "Bloodbath" "calling us socialistic commies" and "Fascists" when it was clearly him saying Fascists things he will do come day one.
@donraydonziegler
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
MAGA conspiracy leads to mass hysteria.
@donraydonziegler
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
Burglar emoji may have been thought of because many have associated such emoji as the McDonald Hamburgler. So people associated emojis as one but not recognized that they saw the Hamburgler character.
@JohnTresnak
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
Canadian seal clubbing at its finest. Nice job.
@nickfromm5315
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
Gravity isn't a FACT, it's a theory! I was balling 🤣
@tacolordc
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
When a debate between two randos on the internet is unironically better than every modern presidential debate
@namless3654
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
You are very articulate, you need to debate more often.
@2lycos
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
I wish i could like this video more than once
@xmadeinchinax
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
This poor kid clearly does not know how to interview people as someone with a comms degree the cringe is just too much 🫠 i hope mj goes to school and gets an education to work on his critical thinking skills
@sagittarius-a-star-a
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
That is quite disrespectful. Aren't debates supposed to be about respect? "If you are a conspiracy theorist, then you don't deserve my respect!" Okay, what if someone had said, Portugal had purposely hid information about Africa and we never knew about this. So you made fun of the guy and later it turns out that he was correct. Then what would you do?
"I would apologize."
You don't apologize to conspiracy theorists.
"Look conspiracy theorists are…"
Use any doublespeak you want, a conspiracy theorist is someone who brings up information that cannot be substantiated concerning a conspiracy or a secret intent to cause harm, correct?
"Yes, but this isn't the same thing."
That is the doublespeak. If Portugal hid information that most likely is in the interest of other countries, then it is doing harm to those other countries.
"Yeah… but…"
That is stammering. Realizing you are wrong but not accepting it, fully. Look conspiracies happen all the time, but only a few of them count as authentic in what conspiracy theorists are able to provide. In fact, calling them conspiracy theorists would be incorrect because a theory in science is something that is valid. Which means conspiracy theories use to be something valid and it is not that it got tainted but intention had came to mark it as a negative probably to guarantee the attempt to be a conspiracy theorist would be frown upon even if the information behind the "theory" was correct. Such as the conspiracy theory I had made that Trump faked his injuries from the incident that had happened in September I think it was.
@ajward137
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
You have to be careful how you talk about objective reality. Yes, it is a useful concept – the vast majority of our everyday lives relies on something we can call objective reality – the light goes on when I flick this switch – that sort of thing. At the other end, you can talk about things like ghosts, which nobody has managed to prove exist – so I assume they don't. The issue is: where does a rational individual draw the line? In any case: rational thinking has to be taught – that's getting rarer these days.
@dantheminigolfwizard860
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
you should have had a mediator named KJ
@Serinebanders
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
Conspiracy theories are attractive to the feeble minded, because they are mostly branded.
@Pussaychop
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
Even with ample warning i cackled delightfully when they got there. Give the kid (with lesser hair;) credit for aksing for the interview and consenting to being posted. Credit JJ for taking him further than public school in 22min. Itsa fun listen.
@sneakers_guy5488
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
Awh man, this is what it felt like getting a stern talking to from my grandpa lol
@dk57nde23
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
this is why people with vastly different IQs can't have a meaningful conversation
5 minutes in and this kid is just going in circles about points JJ is clearly trying to hammer into his brain
@vjm-audio
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
I think there's merit to listening to wacky conspiracy theories as long as you go into it with the mindset of "This could be true, but it most likely is false. It's mythmaking.
@vjm-audio
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
A hundred percent I get what you're saying
@rkroll17
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
I think he might understand what I is saying but wants to protect his brand. I’m not saying that’s for sure what he’s doing but it’s pretty bad to knowingly do something wrong in order to make money.
@yunghernando3946
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
It was kinda funny to see how he hit a soft spot for you. But I completely understand because it is truly insane how people seem to gravitate or want to believe that nothing they are told or brought up to believe as fact, is true. Everyone seems to want a conspiracy. They want to believe they know something other people haven’t realized yet
@willlbee
February 12, 2026 at 1:31 am
🧑🚀
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