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YOTED: Alienation before alienation

The Red Nation | February 4, 2025



YOTED is back! Comrades Justine and Levi, and East is a Podcast host, Sina, join to discuss the documentary Heaven’s Gate: The Cult of Cults (2020).

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This post currently has 24 comments.

  1. @3ehahn

    February 4, 2025 at 4:10 am

    Christianity is a cult. Puritanical pilgrims fled to the“ New World” after being run out of Europe for being judgmental , super strict jerks. Europe is far less uptight than the US….yet European Colonialism set the tone for the racist, white centric culture that the country is now poisoned with.

  2. @marionborri7202

    February 4, 2025 at 4:10 am

    The most precious statement: people and especially western people do not want suffer; they understand it as a problem; never as a chance to grow. 2. The short time and individualistic (egoistic?) thinking and not within generations (7)

  3. @AmericanDreamable

    February 4, 2025 at 4:10 am

    There's a definite correlation to the groovy white psychedelic subculture. UFO's were emerging in the dominant culture as an "insurgent" theme through Tim Leary, Jefferson Airplane/Starship, the L5 Society, Robert Anton Wilson and others of that ilk, but centered an explicitly COLONIAL relation of people from Earth towards other planets. In this way, weird trippy pop culture united dropout types with the billionaires who also fantasized about some kind of high tech space settlement- and have the actual means to make it happen.

  4. @timmoore3188

    February 4, 2025 at 4:10 am

    There is always a better place "over there". That’s America. When there is no more frontier left, where do you go. Space. I'm asking my settler brothers and sisters: Why don't we love where we're at?

  5. @johndavis2399

    February 4, 2025 at 4:10 am

    As a descendant of people who were settled in northern Europe, and who then left their settlements several generations ago; and as one who has been nomadic in North America most of his life……..I consider the Red Nation to be the "settlers". That is, people who stay in one spot for a long long time.
    That settles it. 👍

    Thank you for this thought-provoking discussion of a bizarre cult. (BTW, Japan also has an intense electronic culture with equally bizarre cults.) The only memory I retain of this news item is that all the victims/martyrs(?) were wearing new white Nikes. There was a strong statement being made in this confused act. Giving ones life to some sort of ideal, however deluded, is the supreme act of any human. Your laughter was a bit jarring.
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    OK….I'm going back to the real world now……..to suffer some more.😑

  6. @DannyBoy40200

    February 4, 2025 at 4:10 am

    Father sky Mother Earth is universal wisdom and so Patriarchal minded people see aliens instead of cosmic brotherhoods. And obviously white supremist ideology wants to take credit away from American Indian depth of perception

  7. @Go_Home_British_Raj

    February 4, 2025 at 4:10 am

    How come all the 'left wing' Colonial American podcasts etc don't centre Native/American Indians as their foundation??!!! They have NO CENTRE!!?? They just carry on talking over their stolen existence, it's typical but infuriating when they get so much else right but it only seems it's for their brand. Because it certainly is not authentic if they exclude you after a year of this bs and the centuries before, that they live on.

  8. @russnrach8

    February 4, 2025 at 4:10 am

    Born and bred Oregonian here (now living in Washington) and can confirm its racist history. Their 1857 Constitution banned Black Americans from living there or owning property, which I never learned about until many years into my adult life.

    Thank you for the informative content.

  9. @alexanderleuchte5132

    February 4, 2025 at 4:10 am

    Another maybe lesser known cult with UFO's and mass exit in the 90's was the "Solar Temple", "Ordre du Temple Solaire" from Switzerland. It was a thing to join cults and move into a commune before the internet

  10. @alexanderleuchte5132

    February 4, 2025 at 4:10 am

    "Live on Earth is such a valley of tears, being a human is so dirty. You gotta chop these nasty bits off and hop on a spaceship to get out of here."
    Always the same Platonic-transcendental life rejecting nonsense

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