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Why Taiwan isn’t “Taiwan” at the Olympics

Phil Edwards | September 27, 2024



There’s a lot to a name: especially when it comes to Chinese Taipei.
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  1. @qalinsooracademy8538

    September 27, 2024 at 3:29 pm

    I strongly believe Taiwan deserves to recognize as a Full Country and we need to open our eyes to Taiwan. Because I can't believe how Taiwan is developed compared to the other Asian Countries. You can't imangin how Taiwanese people are really good people and hospitable. I love Taiwan.❤

  2. @yunlinlovecheer

    September 27, 2024 at 3:29 pm

    身為台灣人,我也很想在奧運上看到"台灣"的正名!

    可惜的是,奧運的運動者沒有這麼多時間等待…(cry)

    很開心在奧運比賽中,看見這麼多國家的人為台灣發聲!很感動!!

  3. @finneurovision5775

    September 27, 2024 at 3:29 pm

    I went to the taiwanese house at the Paris Olympics (I am from Germany). There was a Drag Queen Show going on (which wouldn´t happen in the chinese house, I suppose) and the taiwanese people partied to it like I have rarely seen someone partying. At the end of the show they got political about the question of this video on the stage. To sum it up: they clearly spoke out for the hope that their great athletes can compete as "Taiwan" in the future and the crowd was cheering very loudly to it, waving the real taiwanese flags.

    All I have experienced on that evening in the taiwanese house made it clear imo: Taiwan and China are two dirfferent countries, that doesn`t fit to another at all in the way people think and live. Taiwan should be able to live as they want to and compete as an own country in sports, includig the Olympics.

    Of course, Taiwan should compete under the name of Taiwan, but let`s be realistic; Everyone knows which country(ies) was/were competing, when the team was called "Unified Team" in 1992, or "Russian Olympic Comittee athletes" in 2020 and 2022, or "Individual Neutral Athletes" in 2024… Everyone knows which country can count that success as theirs. So do people with "Chinese Taipei". It may not be called "Taiwan" in official papers and that may hurt a bit, but does that really matter? It´s not about a technical name, it`s about being able to compete and about the sport. So as long, as some people use their power to lie about the name of a different country or it´s obviously existing cultural and mentally difference from another one, it should be fine to go by that, because people know who really is competing there.

    I filmed my trip to Paris and will upload a long, detailed Vlog about it, including my experience at the taiwanese house. It´s just not finished yet.

  4. @kellychiustar

    September 27, 2024 at 3:29 pm

    很棒的解釋和說明方式。台灣委屈,但台灣在國際上,卻不能大聲說,謝謝您幫我們說明,
    愛台灣🇹🇼🇹🇼 We need friends❤ 🧡
    台灣,中國,互不隸⭐️🌈

  5. @x--.

    September 27, 2024 at 3:29 pm

    They have to stay in the games. That's the statement, they are a world player. Under any name that's way better than making it normal for them not to compete because that's what PRC wants, they don't want this breakaway part of their nation competing, they want them competing under their name or not at all.

    The bravest thing they can do is keep showing up.

  6. @rachelhsieh24

    September 27, 2024 at 3:29 pm

    Thank you for making this video!
    I remember that during the referendum, many people wanted to use Taiwan, but at the same time there were also some voices like this:

    if we vote to use a team name that represents our country, but the price is that we can't represent our country in the Olympics, then what's the point of this name?

    (used translation)

  7. @陳粒芳

    September 27, 2024 at 3:29 pm

    Taiwan and Penghu are leftover issues from World War II. See Treaty of Peace with Japan.

    At the time, the U.S. government helped the Chinese Nationalist Party (Republic of China), which had been defeated in the Chinese Civil War, escape to Taiwan, which was then a Japanese colony. Look at Formosa betrayed. Formosa is the original name of Taiwan.

    After the Chinese Kuomintang came to Taiwan, it still maintained dictatorial rule, but moved towards democracy under pressure from the United States, and the Taiwanese entered the Republic of China to fight for their rights.

    The Chinese who lost their privileges in Taiwan united with the People's Republic of China to steal Taiwan and Penghu.

  8. @nestorguardado600

    September 27, 2024 at 3:29 pm

    They were way ahead of their time as far as identifying themselves, no pun intended!
    💪💪💪 Who you are, what you stand for, and what your Cultural identity actually is-is a very important distinction of the people on the Island of Taiwan! It is obvious: The ROC is just keeping it real ladies and gents! And the world is just hesitant to allow them to represent themselves freely!
    ☮️☮️☮️☮️☮️☮️☮️☮️☮️☮️☮️☮️☮️☮️

  9. @chang-tsunglin6473

    September 27, 2024 at 3:29 pm

    First of all, thank you for making this video, and I agree with your verdict. Holding the "Chinese Taipei" sign not only lost the meaning of representing our country, it sends a seriously wrong message, almost like "we are willing to surrender our sovereignty just so we can play in this ____ing game."

    Regarding the referendum that failed, I think they got spooked into thinking it's a choice between either "Chinese Taipei" or being banned for good.

    My idea for boycotting is that, rather than not going to the game, Taiwan could seek help from their small foreign nation friends to send their athletes, nations like Palau or Tuvalu. By doing so, the IOC will be exposed for their unfairness and non-inclusiveness, for bowing down to Chinese pressure, and contradicting to IOC spirit and Charter. Then, they would be forced to accept Taiwan as the propper name.

  10. @Amelia-sq2sm

    September 27, 2024 at 3:29 pm

    We need to know that the reason why Taiwan was named ROC because of less than 20 percent of population migrated here, along with the dictatorship. Thanks to our ancestors we came out of that. How ironic that China became a dictatorship country and now we’re free (with great costs though😢)

  11. @brennencox516

    September 27, 2024 at 3:29 pm

    2:30 But it should also be mentioned why the island of Taiwan was a Japanese colony (or rather, Japanese territory).
    5:00 I disagree. It didn't turn "Taiwan" into the Republic of China, it turned the island of Taiwan into the biggest territory still controlled by the Republic of China (they also control many much smaller islands).
    7:50 No, they wouldn't be in the UN if they accepted the name "Taiwan". Mao and Chiang both said there is only 1 China, and they demanded the UN vote for only 1 to have a seat in the UN. There's no reason why both couldn't be there (similar to N & S Korea now), but Chiang F'd the RoC over with that move.
    10:08 Again, the leaders of the PRC and RoC demanded the vote. The UN didn't want to do it, but they did to appease 2 old men.

  12. @Kak221-u9e

    September 27, 2024 at 3:29 pm

    Who can answer my questions?
    1. What name did Taiwan originally
    want to use in the Olympics instead of"Chinese Taipei"?
    2.What did Taiwanese athletes do in
    1988 that got them into trouble?
    3. What choice did the people of
    Taiwan make when they voted in the referendum about their Olympic name?

    4. (a) Why is the name "Chinese
    Taipei" confusing for people? (b) How do you say "a compromise name"Chinese 5. (a) Why did Taiwan choose not to
    play in the 1976 Olympics?

  13. @DunDun-e43

    September 27, 2024 at 3:29 pm

    Hey, I just want to also interject that there where tensions back when ROC wasn't a democracy between the different ethnic groups especially the indigenous people. With what's come to be the white supression/massacre scare. It only gotten better with the transition to democracy and Taiwan democracy farther. Even today that event and era is taboo to talk about. With indigenous Taiwainese, somewhat found of the Formosas days, same as some historian who says it would have been better if the Dutch had kept Taiwan until modern days. Another interesting thing is that history and geopolitical would be a lot different if perhaps 1989 tank square event if the students, like in Taiwan, haven't been so strict and so unmovable with their demand of every change at once and now. Give runway and time. Seems a theme, of not taken what's best and only taken the best of the worse option later

  14. @Skipping2HellPHX

    September 27, 2024 at 3:29 pm

    If the ROC boycotts the Olympics will continue without blinking. The ROC needs allies, but not national ones. If Coca-Cola, Visa, ABInBev support the name change to the proper "Republic of China" then the Olympics will listen.

  15. @yong0925

    September 27, 2024 at 3:29 pm

    The official name of Taiwan is the Republic of China. I believe we should use the name “Republic of China” to participate in the Olympics, but unfortunately, this name is not recognized by the world. The Republic of China does exist in Taiwan. As a result, more people around the world recognize Taiwan rather than the Republic of China. Nevertheless, whether it’s Taiwan or Chinese Taipei, as long as it represents the country to which the athletes belong and allows their hard work to be showcased to the world, that’s what truly matters. I’m from Taiwan❤world peace❤

  16. @Cathay_Dragon

    September 27, 2024 at 3:29 pm

    The KMT lost China civil war in1949, but it remains the name of Repulic of China, now taiwan want to be a small island country, what a shame, didn't you remember you wanted to retake the mainland? now you are so sick. 湾湾真的惨,又菜破事又多

  17. @kisaragi-hiu

    September 27, 2024 at 3:29 pm

    The Taiwan Plus video on this topic touched on a really good point. In terms of sports values, it's not great when you compromise on something as important as your identity just to be able to compete, to be able to win. That's like giving up your values just to secure a victory.

    On the other hand – as Taiwan democratized, we also highly value the works and efforts of individuals, of the people that are directly putting in the work, ie. the athletes, the coaches, and so on. It's our nation, but it's also their careers, their life's work, and it really isn't right for us non-athletes to actively trigger the IOC and China to pull the plug on them. (For that matter, it also isn't right for the IOC to DQ or threaten to DQ people for wanting to represent their country despite efforts to gaslight the world that we don't exist.)

    So my opinion is that pressuring sports organizations to accept us for who we are is the more ideal option, but it must not happen without the consent of athletes.

  18. @handsomejustin

    September 27, 2024 at 3:29 pm

    Hey Phil, since WHEN was Taiwan an independent country? And which countries on this planet actually recognize Taiwan as a country?
    And where do you get the audacity to tell the world that Taiwan isn't part of China with a straight face even given the fact that it doesn't take very much at all to learn the real history?

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