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The TERRIFYING Sleeping Disorder That Inspired A Nightmare On Elm Street

Joe Scott | October 21, 2024



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In the late 70’s and early 80’s, a wave of unexplained deaths swept through Laotian immigrant communities in the US. Efforts to solve the mystery, sparking a mystery that traces back to a secret Vietnam-era CIA operation and bombing campaign. And along the way, inspired one of the most iconic horror villains of all time.

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https://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchise/fr2923925253/
https://screenrant.com/nightmare-elm-street-wes-craven-name-inspiration-jfk/
https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-lists/bedtime-stories-behind-the-10-most-shocking-nightmare-on-elm-street-scenes-151029/spinning-world-83852/
http://blog.cinefantastiqueonline.com/wordpress/wes-craven-on-dreaming-up-nightmares/
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-los-angeles-times/137064346/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger_and_the_Vietnam_War
https://www.vulture.com/2014/10/nightmare-on-elm-street-oral-history.html
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/body/21648-heart-conduction-system
https://www.history.com/news/agent-orange-wasnt-the-only-deadly-chemical-used-in-vietnam
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/veteran-exposed-to-toxic-burn-pits-wins-precedent-setting-lawsuit
https://www.history.com/news/laos-most-bombed-country-vietnam-war
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https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-tampa-tribune-oriental-death-syndrom/24090817/
https://www.newspapers.com/image/387630247/?clipping_id=24221252&fcfToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJmcmVlLXZpZXctaWQiOjM4NzYzMDI0NywiaWF0IjoxNzA1MjY1NjIyLCJleHAiOjE3MDUzNTIwMjJ9.3BT0MBErA4N8Y7LSl_kSUMNYQ_RyBn5Azbl1FzTYY-4
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-01-11-mn-3961-story.html
https://www.nytimes.com/1981/05/10/us/nightmares-suspected-in-bed-deaths-of-18-laotians.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1981/02/27/medical-riddle-hmong-deaths-in-us/8601cef2-a502-4438-b4ba-7e754ab52659/
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-los-angeles-times/137064346/

TIMESTAMPS
0:00 – Intro
1:31 – History
5:24 – Dab Tsog
8:42 – Brugada Syndrome
10:37 – Agent Orange
11:50 – PTSD
15:00 – Nebula

Written by Joe Scott

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  1. @D.J.F753

    October 21, 2024 at 1:48 am

    I used to suffer from sleep paralysis, absolutely terrifying. One thing I want to know (which I can't find a satisfactory answer for) is why do people who suffer from sleep paralysis always see demons?? Why don't we see anything else? In the 15 or so years I suffered I never once saw a pink unicorn, or anything else for that matter. It was always a tall, lanky, black demon with long horrible fingers who would get closer and closer to me and try to strangle me. Why is it that so many people suffer the exact same 'halucination'?

  2. @sussekind9717

    October 21, 2024 at 1:48 am

    I grew up on Elm Street in Tampa, Florida, until I was 19 years old.
    Our street was a favorite for trick or treaters. Everybody doctored up their houses for Halloween.
    I always thought it was a lot of fun.

    We actually had one house on the street that looked like the Elm Street house in the very first movie. Shutters and all.

  3. @sth.777

    October 21, 2024 at 1:48 am

    Thank you for this history; it's a complicated, convoluted world for immigrants to try and find a home in a foreign land – in which people are often overwhelmed with refugees and defensive against more arriving…

  4. @carolmckinzey9041

    October 21, 2024 at 1:48 am

    Sleep paralysis is totally terrifying. I had episodes of it during n my late 30s and 40s. I can understand how someone could die of fright during an episode of sleep paralysis, especially if that person already has a heart rhythm defect. You know that this eerie figure hiding in the corner is going to kill you but you can't move to save yourself or even call out for help. When I'd finally wake up my heart would be racing. Interesting that I quit having them after separating from my husband.
    I feel for all those Laotian men who apparently died during sleep paralysis. They lived through the hell of the war only to be attacked by a demon after escaping to what was supposed to be safety.

  5. @abigailsmith6000

    October 21, 2024 at 1:48 am

    We have a family friend who is a refugee from Laos during the wartime, she was about 13 at the time and the stories she tells about what it was like being a young girl in the refugee camps in Laos was pretty horrifying. Thankfully she has a comfortable life now in America

  6. @burnsm2012

    October 21, 2024 at 1:48 am

    Stage 1 sleep is paralysis, becoming conscious before your body is ready causes this. Once your brain realizes the disconnection, u regain motor function. Its more like a brain oopsy my bad

  7. @jamgaming3693

    October 21, 2024 at 1:48 am

    Yh I used to have sleep paralysis where I would be lying in my bed my tv would be on it would be in 1st person but also had a perception of 3rd person and then this thing would start climbing through my window it’s long claws first, then red eyes and more of it and it was pure black monster thing, it was mad cause I knew I was asleep but cause I was saying to myself move and wake up properly and nothing would happen and that was terrifying 😮

  8. @finwwwfinwww4669

    October 21, 2024 at 1:48 am

    lol America and Vietnam, America should be held responsible and should pay for it,
    sanctions and money,

    and also should be made paid for nixon crash ,A lot of debt..
    just like Germany was made to pay for ww1 and ww2 (some were still recived reparation till 2020).

    But we all know it's never gonna happen

  9. @jinx18e

    October 21, 2024 at 1:48 am

    I have intense nightmares. In my dreams I feel everything, can smell everything, and have had dreams last decades. My nightmares are typically silent Hill and blood born level of horror. I'm not allowed to wake up until I'm killed. I'm honestly surprised I didn't die of a heart attack in my sleep.

  10. @agalah408

    October 21, 2024 at 1:48 am

    If I have a stupid dream where I am in danger or just crazy shit happens, It goes like a Monty Python sketch and logical me walks onto the set, waving arms saying "No No stop it. Turn off the camera. This is just stupid and we're not doing this crap. Wake up now.. Then I do wake up.

  11. @frankf1095

    October 21, 2024 at 1:48 am

    I struggled with sleep paralysis in my 20' s (I'm 60)
    . It is the most horrifying condition, not only the actual not being able to awaken, there were times when I felt an evil apparition in my room. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. And then it stopped and I haven't had it since. (thank God).

  12. @Corqii

    October 21, 2024 at 1:48 am

    My grandfather either fought in WW2 or Vietnam, i can't remember, but my grandmother and him spent years battling the US government trying to get compensation for his chronic health issues. In the end they got it, but he (possibly intentionally) died when I was in preschool, he was unable to eat sugar and had eaten a large bag of candy while my grandmother went out to smoke. She came back in to grab a cup of joe and noticed he was napping, she left him to sleep and went back outside to smoke. By the time she came back in his heart had stopped, she pulled him out of his wheelchair (which was a FEAT, my grandmother is like 100 pounds and 5 feet tall, I'm unsure how tall my grandfather was but he wasn't super heavy.) and started doing CPR while on the phone with 911, I believe he planned this because they had a firefighter neighbor and nurse neighbor who had both moved out within the prior months of this. The way my grandmother explained this voided the intentions behind him doing this, but I don't believe he did it out of a want for candy. I believe he killed himself because he felt like a burden to my grandmother. She's 67 currently, he died when I was in preschool (2012, I'm 15 now. and yes people born in 09' are 15 now.). I still remember being pulled out of class and my dad gave me a black dress and we went to his funeral, that was the same day my mom kicked my dad out of the house and brought her boyfriend in, which, wtf yikes mom!

    He had to be on oxygen because the chemicals ruined his lungs and was wheelchair bound the entire time I knew him, which was brief. We went to Brunswick Bowling in AZ once and he used a cane iirc, but I was very little.

    I'll occasionally wake up from a 'bad dream' and just sit there, unmoving. Whether it's my brain being too fucking annoyed ™ or some weird form of post-sleep-paralysis, it's very odd. I've always had frequent nightmares, but I've never woken up screaming or crying. (At least since I can remember, although there was this one time I woke up on the couch and the little mermaid was playing and I started bawling for absolutely no reason.) I've had this really specific dream stuck in my head since I was probably 4, during my parents pre-divorce-separation phase my mom was sleeping in the upstairs guest bedroom, my dad my brother and me were all sleeping on the carpet just under the stairs and I had a very vivid dream of giant bees squeezing underneath the front door (Like, human sized bees, a massive cloud of them too.) and flying past us and up the stairs to my mom's room, my vision followed the bees until they got to her door, of which they squeezed under, my vision cut into the room and it was impossible to see but it was very implied that they killed her. I woke up at dawn and looked around, I never told anyone about that. It was during a time of which I held a lot of anger towards her. I think the dream was inspired by the time I went to the park with my dad and brother and there was a swarm of bees hiding behind a cloud, the cloud moved and the bees started flying towards us so my dad grabbed us both and we went home. My brother claimed that I wasn't there when I brought it up a few years ago, which was debunked by my father lmao, idk why my brother lied about that.

    Btw, most of my memories are from when I was very young, I have a few BIG MEMORIES ™ from ages 6-10 but they are far and few between. Then I have memories from 10-11, no memories really from 11-14. Why my memory is like this, I have no fucking clue!

  13. @DaniCamo

    October 21, 2024 at 1:48 am

    I have experienced most of the weird sleep phenomena since I was a child. Night terrors, nightmares, sleep walking, sleep talking, positional sleep apnea (which causes crazy nightmares) and sleep paralysis to name the ones right off the top of my head. So, I've done a ton of research about sleep phenomena.

    One of the weirdest experiences that I've ever had are the times where I get sleep paralysis and I'm lucid and aware of what's happening but I can't do anything to stop it.

    There was this one time where I was trying to take a nap and got sleep paralysis on the way out of the nap and I was dreaming about being poked and prodded by doctors (a very common occurrence with sleep paralysis) and I knew exactly what was happening – that I was dreaming with my eyes opened and couldnt move bc of the chemicals in my brain preparing my body for sleep. Anyway, so, my husband walked through the room and I could see him walk straight through the dream-doctors and I followed him with my eyes trying to say "help. wake me up" but I couldn't say anything. He giggled at me because he thought I was just watching him walk through the room, but then he noticed something was weird. I think I may have been gasping instead of saying "help me" but i don't really know. Either way, he came and woke me up and I was scared but laughing and telling him what happened. It was the strangest thing. I think it's even stranger than having the dreams without being lucid.

  14. @ironageamplification1791

    October 21, 2024 at 1:48 am

    I saw a mouthless, Golden-Eyed demon-gargoyle thing when I lived alone in this small town in Maine. I could hear deep thrumming in my ears as I watched it enter my room, I was completely immobile and I remember wanting to scream and not being able to. Almost 10 years later I men someone else who's sister was experiencing bouts of sleep paralysis very similar to what I felt. When I told him about what I saw and the "Golden-Eyed Demon" his expression changed and he told me HIS SISTER SAW THE SAME THING. Did I mention they live in the same town that I lived in when I experienced the nightmares?
    To this day it evades simple explanation and I can still see the demon if I try to picture it. This was an eerie video.

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