Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War | Lex Fridman Podcast #415

3:18:00 the problem is that people always think "well than maybe one nuke gets dropped but then all the others will also be shot" which is totally wrong, why should anyone shoot their missiles just because somewhere a nuke exploded if its not the own territory? Then the problem of power, people don't realize how many nukes you would need to reach a certain goal, it's not like "one nuke and everything would be finished" but more likely a few dozens because the radiation goes away fast and besides ground zero there is much that can withhold the explosion especially under 20kt which most mini nukes of today are.

And the big strategic ones aren't meant to fight anyways, those are just the city busters in case the own country would get completely destroyed or overtaken.

Lex's ideas about how to close out the war seem incredibly ignorant to me – assuming that Putin may make serious concessions… He is in my mind an incredibly naive Russian apologist and equivocator. We in America had similar problems with equivocation in WW1 and WW2 – which now appears as obvious moral bankruptcy, but apparently wasn't obvious to everyone at the time, or now in this case.

Huh, thought i recognized a pattern but you are pretty decent at hiding uour tracks. You have to start out legitimate in order to amplify an unpopular opinion. Bitch if it was a popular option you wouldn't such a spineless little worm you would just say it.

Question for anyone,,
If they are different people (nationality)Russian and Ukrainian,why is the name of the country Ukraine ?

NATO is a shakedown racket run by American warmongers for profit at the expense of the native populations! The native populations are too corrupt and stupid to resist all the bribes and criminal threats from NATO thugs! !

On when the slavs emerged: Im not sure why you're guest left out the Bulgarian state established in 681 in central balkans with bulgars, slavs and tracian tribes?

Why would he skip that to say that slavs oiriginated in northern Ukraine 2 centuries later?

Soviets are worse than nazi

Tack så mycket 07

Även om Ryssland vinner mera mark i Ukraina så borde den bli så dyr så att det inte skulle vara värt det om andra saker man inte vet om men det bästa alternativet vore nog både ekonomiskt och samarbetsvilligt vara att avsluta fast ej får det att se ut som en förlorare för ryska folket 07

Wow, Lex. You are so pathetic. You desperately grasp at any way to validate Putin's characterization of Bandera as an evil Nazi. It's pretty clear you still identify with Russian nationalism. It isn't pretty.

Whatever Bandera's faults, he's not an evil monster like Stalin or your hero Putin.

He leaves a lot of important details out .. That bandera had an special acommodation in Sachsen Hausen , because he was very ideologically very close to the nazis . And many more Facts ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wugfHI_dJhk

the comment " Boris Johnson represented Britain and not US" and the fact Zalinski could not be moved via certain persuasions … is extremely naive

Resultatet av kriget blir att försvaga Ryssland och Ukraina och deras resurser och ekonomi och Rysslands tillit för kommande generationer 07

In response to Lex and Serhii, the reason why I thought he stayed instead of going into exile is because he's a fundamentally decent person who cares about his fellow citizens. He wants to lead them to a real victory. Like Stephen Kotkin has said, "to really win the war you gotta win the peace". I think that he's right and I hope Zelenskyy knows this too.

Joel

LOL, this guy is down playing Bandera's nazi views and crimes and today's Ukraine nazi elements like there's no tomorrow 😂😂😂

I mean, according to him Bandera was just a freedom loving young fella and his army just fought for freedom……not like they slaughtered dozens of thousands civilians

and today in Ukraine there's maybe a couple of nazis, not like they had their own militia of few thousand men, not like they have recruitment centers and "social clubs" all over the country, not like Ukraine incorporated a full blown nazi battalion into their armed forces, not like they freely roam trough the country attacking minorities,right??

and even if all this IS true – it's much better than in any other European state,right?

"In total, the Germans enlisted 250,000 native Ukrainians for duty in five separate formations including the Nationalist Military Detachments (VVN), the Brotherhoods of Ukrainian Nationalists (DUN), the SS Division Galicia, the Ukrainian Liberation Army (UVV) and the Ukrainian National Army (Ukrainische Nationalarmee"

-he says "10 – 20 thousand"……..and then complains about too much propaganda and lies…..what a clown