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Does the language you speak change how you think?

Tom Scott | October 2, 2024



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Chiang, T. (2016). Story Of Your Life. In Stories of your life and others. essay, New York: Vintage Books.
Parry, A. (1969). There Is No Russian Word for Privacy. The Georgia Review, 23(2), 196–205. http://www.jstor.org/stable/41396556
Groskop, V. (2017). Personal distance: Why russian life has no room for privacy. The Guardian.
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Haertlé, I. (2017). Does grammatical gender influence perception? A study of Polish and French speakers. Psychology of Language and Communication, 21(1) 386-407. https://doi.org/10.1515/plc-2017-0019
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  1. @S0meRand0mP3rs0n._.

    October 2, 2024 at 9:03 pm

    In terms of 1984, I like to think of it as an example of Big Brother’s conceit that he can stop them thinking things by changing how they express said thoughts. Another example is how he believed he can just force people to not have a sex drive

  2. @utkarshjagtap1769

    October 2, 2024 at 9:03 pm

    "Again, this is an independent issue. The hypothesis that there is a subjective element in elementary sensory and perceptual processes can consistently be maintained by one who denies any influence of language on perception"

  3. @andybandyb

    October 2, 2024 at 9:03 pm

    The way it changes the way you think will be very hard to disentangle using the same language. It’s too hyperdimensional for survey style methods to examine, I expect.

  4. @missbzl1725

    October 2, 2024 at 9:03 pm

    THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU! As a philologist and student of language and linguistics for nearly five decades, I can not agree more, and have made this same argument over and over. Language is malleable, hence it is a reflection of us and our culture more than it is a shaper. Great job, Tom Scott!

  5. @lamecasuelas2

    October 2, 2024 at 9:03 pm

    I think that for a proper study to occur scientists would also have to consider that not only cultures shapes language but also the other way around, they are interconnected and mantain a relationship that keeps evolvimg back and fort simultaneously.

  6. @bluebaum2.7.16

    October 2, 2024 at 9:03 pm

    That one jungle language where there are no numbers and only "many" and "few" and no abstract concepts kinda disproofs this no? Also some language which a fixed direction thing where there is only north south west east and no front back left right, it kinda changes how you think.

  7. @ИванБорисюк-п7э

    October 2, 2024 at 9:03 pm

    As someone who speaks 4 languages fluently, 2 of them being native and 2 acquired, I'd say that it definitely widens your perspective. But then again, there's no way of telling if it has more to do with the language itself or the culture that you have to adopt to an extent in order to learn the language better.

  8. @dextro808

    October 2, 2024 at 9:03 pm

    i love how every single commenter is presenting anectodal, self-reported "evidence" on how language changes the way they think. my good people, you don't think in words, those come after thoughts

  9. @lusciouslocks8790

    October 2, 2024 at 9:03 pm

    I have zero evidence of any kind, but I imagine associations could be made stronger by differing etymologies?

    Like if I call a certain type of stool an ottoman, that makes me think of a certain empire. I don’t know what Turks call that stool, but I imagine it’s much more geographically neutral to them.

    This might lead me to place an unreasonable amount of these stools in a fictional setting in Turkey, whereas a non-Turkish speaker of language that has a different word for this type of stool would depict the scene more realistically.

    Obviously this doesn’t change what I’m capable of thinking, but if this is how language works, I would argue that it shows language can at least make some neural pathways more travelled than they would be otherwise.

  10. @amazinggrapes3045

    October 2, 2024 at 9:03 pm

    Chicken and egg situation. The language doesn't have a word because the people didn't think of the concept. But when there's a word to communicate the concept, it can be communicated to people who haven't come up with it on their own, thus shaping their thoughts just by sharing a language.

  11. @tr3ki295

    October 2, 2024 at 9:03 pm

    As a Russian I can say we have the word for privacy: "уединённость" like "being alone" and "личное пространство" like "private space", and these are ones what are originally Russian, not borrowed, as we like to borrow a lot, too. It seems for me as a myth that all Russians are communist

  12. @boringblaziken8122

    October 2, 2024 at 9:03 pm

    I think the idea is that removing words that could be used to criticize the government helps stop the spread of antigovernment sentiment among the populous. In 1984 many people do have antigovernment thoughts ans ideas, they just cant share them.

  13. @LukeStevens-pp5bp

    October 2, 2024 at 9:03 pm

    I may disagree. You see all of the words he used still had the semantic sphere. So yes we can experience self love without Greek, but without words for self? Or personal? Or individuality? I don’t know. No experiment could ever be done on this. However, without this semantic sphere, it is likely there would still be a large affect on thought. Also, even with simple physical things like numbers, words DO change how we think. Different words for color influences how we see color. Different words for time and active vs passive in Latin changed how the Roman’s thought incredibly.

  14. @LukeStevens-pp5bp

    October 2, 2024 at 9:03 pm

    I may disagree. You see all of the words he used still had the semantic sphere. So yes we can experience self love without Greek, but without words for self? Or personal? Or individuality? I don’t know. No experiment could ever be done on this. However, without this semantic sphere, it is likely there would still be a large affect on thought. Also, even with simple physical things like numbers, words DO change how we think. Different words for color influences how we see color. Different words for time and active vs passive in Latin changed how the Roman’s thought incredibly.

  15. @TonyMidyett

    October 2, 2024 at 9:03 pm

    Hot take: If languages DON'T change the way you think, then they don't provide unique perspectives on the world, and therefore, we should all simply speak the same language. Cultural diversity is only INHERENTLY good if it improves how humans survive and thrive. We are, after all, ORGANISMS. 👍

  16. @SSM24_

    October 2, 2024 at 9:03 pm

    I think there's a missing distinction here between "language can affect the way you can think" versus "language can affect the way you think about things in practice". And I'm not sure all of that can necessarily be explained away just by cultural differences.

  17. @ubuenglish

    October 2, 2024 at 9:03 pm

    I am an ESL instructor. To say that language doesn't affect the way people think presumes that we understand how human brains think, but we do not. So while I agree that what we feel emotionally or what we perceive as sensory information and how we conceptualize our experience with any language is probably very similar from one human to another. However, different languages organize ideas in different ways. How we organize concepts and ideas in our minds or as language for communicating them varies from one language to another. This is reflected in the way an Italian learning English will commonly express an idea in the same way using English as they would in Italian. An Italian is very likely to say "No speak I very well the English," rather than "I don't speak English very well as a native English speaker would. This is because in Italian they would say, "Non Parlo molto bene il Englese," which literally translates into, "No speak I very well the English." I think your take on this focuses too much on what people think and experience, which is probably universal, vs how people think which is about structure and syntax and the way concepts and ideas are organized in language. We do think with language, try not thinking or thinking without language and you will easily understand how closely language and think are associated. From this perspective it becomes quite clear that language does indeed determine how we thing but not what we think or can experience.

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