China’s Punk Rock Talent Show: A National Paradox

China has a reality show like “The Voice” or “American Idol,” but instead of pop singers competing for the top prize, it’s rock bands… and not just any rock bands, but genuinely weird & unique post-punk, goth, folk, glam and metal bands. In a country where entertainment is tightly controlled and “positive energy” is mandated, “The Big Band” manages to be shockingly subversive.
Follow-up podcast here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/podcast-6-chinas-107722163
A huge thank you to our interviewees:
Jake Newby https://jakenewby.substack.com/
Emily https://activefaults.substack.com/
David Lin https://linktr.ee/MooseLightKingdom
Playlist of songs featured in this video: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7LUICbTh0obrc5FeJN8RIc?si=0e377a77238a4135
0:00 Berlin Psycho Nurses [柏林護士] – Psychotic Whispery
2:55 The Big Band Theme Song《乐队的夏天》主题曲
3:30 S.H.E – Tropical Rainforest [熱帶雨林]
3:39 Torturing Nurse – Ann
5:08 New School’s Loser Chorus [新学校废物合唱团] – 再見琳尼爾
6:15 Young Dan [回春丹] – Rainbow Smile [彩虹的微笑]
8:05 Constant & Change [康士坦的變化球] – Can Something Good Happen To Me? [美好的事可不可以發生在我身上]
9:10 Birdstriking [鸟撞] – 25
9:19 Absolute Purity [絕對純潔] – Absolutely Pure
9:31 GriffO – 界門綱目科屬種
10:32 Huxiaochun [虎啸春] – 沉迷浪漫与慌乱的临时商场
12:28 Wowkie Zhang [大張偉] – Sunshine, Rainbow, White Pony
12:37 New Pants [新裤子] – 别再问我什么是迪斯科
14:58 RE-TROS (Rebuilding The Rights of Statues) – A Vision of Chris
15:36 RE-TROS – Pigs In The River
15:43 Hedgehog [刺猬] – 21st Century, When We Were Still Young
15:46 Joyside – Dong Dong Dong
15:51 New Pants [新裤子] – Fireworks [花火]
16:36 Nova Heart – My Song 9
16:56 Buyi Band [布衣乐队] – 喝不完的酒
17:41 Supermarket [超级市场] – 聽風
19:08 Second Hand Rose [二手玫瑰] – 伎倆
22:01 Moose Light Kingdom – Hide & Seek
25:16 Julian Zhenren [九连真人] – Twinkle twinkle little star
25:50 Tailor Shop [裁缝铺] – Twinkle twinkle little star
26:10 Birdstriking [鸟撞] – Twinkle twinkle little star
26:35 8 Immortals Restaurant [八仙飯店] – Twinkle twinkle little star
28:59 Constant & Change [康士坦的變化球] – 開到荼蘼
29:13 Second Hand Rose [二手玫瑰] – 偶遇
29:26 Nova Heart – 一千個傷心的理由
29:54 8 Immortals Restaurant [八仙飯店] – 單身旅記
30:39 Cyndi Wang [王心凌] – Rainbow Smile [彩虹的微笑]
30:51 Mayuan Poet [麻园诗人] – Rainbow Smile [彩虹的微笑]
32:20 Vareihnaz [瓦依那] – 田歌
32:27 Vareihnaz [瓦依那] – 好久不見
32:34 Vareihnaz [瓦依那] – 歌聲和你在一塊
32:52 Vareihnaz [瓦依那] – 大夢
36:16 Nova Heart – Lackluster No.
37:12 Anda Union [安達組合] – 安達
38:02 Second Hand Rose [二手玫瑰] – 仙兒
38:52 Berlin Psycho Nurses [柏林護士] – Bangkok Girl
39:02 Berlin Psycho Nurses [柏林護士] – Psychotic Whispery
39:46 Vareihnaz [瓦依那] – Rongh rib
Editing & thumbnail by @sedatefobia
@Bandsplaining
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
Check out the follow-up podcast on Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/posts/podcast-6-chinas-107722163
@haowang8626
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
they add taiwan group in it is that they are more good indie music in taiwan and its hard to find in China
@abelcoss
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
very cool video, you put so much work into this documentary piece, you definitely need more recognition
@someguymakingvideoz9854
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
Please keep making these cool videos! Keep up the good work.
@Law0086
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
That BandOS is awesome!
@real_GTXH
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
Hi, I'm an indie rock player from Fujian, China, now working in Shenzhen. Glad to see that you can introduce this show on YouTube. This show does help some indie bands get more spotlights through the Internet, and it helps spread some indie music genre knowledge to more listeners. You mentioned that it might be the last season of this show. I don't know if it's true. In some forums in China, some people may think season 3 did a bad job of introducing different genres, and they believe that the final ranking depends more on seniority and popularity. In my opinion, however, all the 3 seasons help me discover a lot of bands I like and genres I've never listened to before. That's enough for me. Nowadays, I'm also a musician and made 3 albums in the last 5 years, and I know that some more bands or musicians did not come to the show and have more different talents.
For all the people who are watching this video, no matter whether you are from China or somewhere else, thank you for being interested in Chinese indie music. For many reasons, indie music in China has limited ways to show themselves to the world. Even this show looks like a show only for the Chinese. Luckily, we have YouTubers like you to help introduce all these music scenes here. Last but not least, love from China, thanks! 爱来自中国,谢谢!
@csnist2381
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
After the 2nd season in 2020, I thought it would be a miracle if there's another season of this show, it was really toeing the line with media regulations. I know some lyrics were changed, and the band or the program team chose to play safer material, which seemed like a deliberate choice. However, one of the performances by Haya, a band from Inner Mongolia, was about their dissatisfaction of losing their grassland to factory building and other development (if I remember correctly what they said on the show, I don't understand the lyrics). They performed with bandages, complete with wound and blood makeup. Very gloomy and dark stuff, I don't remember ever seeing something close to that on chinese tv show before.
@tonnynaomi3926
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
As a malaysian, we used to have a tv show like this called "versus". It was aired during the 2000s during the so called indie era of malaysian music industry bc indie bands were the shit at the time. I haven't watched it honestly and idk much abt it bc I'm way too young, that was long ago but you should definitely check it out 🙏
@obelix703
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
9:14 Birdstriking sound like Kraftklub.
@roffie
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
Awesome video. Thanks so much!
@punpunpunyama9271
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
commenting for the algorithm! (great video as always btw)
@shez6403
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
Funky!! Aaaa he's such a cool dude I remember him from when he was a teacher to a few students in north korea and helped them learn how to play "rock"
@yungfiend6830
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
There's a surprising amount of bands in east asia with stoners. Japan and Taiwan also have alot but bc of the laws they keep it very lowkey. Usually only refrencing weed with metaphors. It always intrigues me though, bc even just getting caught being a weed smoker in those countries can send you to jail. In japan and china at least they interogate you for days if you get caught, they police try to get stoners to snitch on any other stoners or ppl they bought it from.
@geinikan1kan
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
Really great episode. Nice to see someone going on about China. Anda Union has been touring the US for at least a decade.
@pangwilson5838
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
我居然可以看到外国人说乐夏
@soysaucetilapia2893
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
anda union reminds me of hanggai
@mysterious_mushroom_1102
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
28:22 No mannn TT you know how high the copyright fee is for well-known foreign bands like this QQ
@OffendingTheOffendable
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
This a joke? china hates anything different
@fwabcaf
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
Okay I'm interested.
@stapsighboys
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
Super comprehensive and informative – thanks a lot
@BodywiseMustard
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
Awful. You've gone from sharing interesting music history to forcing your a physical brand on a pre-existing audience.
@BodywiseMustard
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
NO! Please – why did you decide to start showing your face. It's selfish. I guarantee many users will leave just as I am about to as soon as I leave this comment. Shame.
@antonschollum3128
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
Mean video brother
@CautiousKieran
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
Do they know what weird rock in the Soviet Union in the 80s led to? A lot of similarities I reckon.
@mas851
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
Amazing video as usual, I love when you highlight underground music from all over the world!
@EVPband
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
I am from China, and I really like to read your analysis every time, which is very accurate in stepping on the hidden problems existing in contemporary Chinese society. In China, the media and public figures are not allowed to talk about these issues, but it is you outsiders who speak out, really ironic.
@SatelliteSoundLab
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
Holy shit why doesn't this exist in North America
@TabukanSahit
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
Kinda feels like anti-Chinese Propaganda to me
@andrewrobertson5508
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
Absolutely LOVE the chill insightful vibes of your videos, please keep it up!!!
@lekasuki
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
The indie music scene in China is really getting more and more interesting now, and not only that, but the development of the Internet community has also had a very interesting impact on Chinese indie music and even experimental music. A new generation of Chinese youth is also starting to create their own music, and they are coming to our attention, hoping to join the global music exchange.
@Rubbersoular
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
There's also a video series on YouTube where a youtuber interviewed bands in the chinese underground scene and let them perform a song. It's called "The sound stage" on YouTube. (English subs are included for the songs)
Many of the bands who appeared on the show also appeared on the sound stage. Including second hand rose performing "clingy" which is my favourite song from theirs and sound toy (one of my favourites of the season) performing "the most wonderful journey".
It's also interesting to see what the respective bands were like when they were younger, and you can even be exposed to more bands that didn't appear in the big band. (Chinese football, Hiperson)
@richteffekt
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
Here's to you; you decadent western instigator. Keep up the subversion.
@stiffori
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
My people are now buying your blue jeans and listening to your pop music
@simonpatonbass
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
Fun fact: the UK tried to make a show like this back in 2007, which was called Mobile Act Unsigned with the winners getting a record deal, but it didn't work. Most of the bands were pretty bad, and the band that did win got dropped quickly afterwards when the album didn't sell
@Griefhand
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
Thanks a bunch for this video, its a shame how fucking good but underrated the chinese scene is.
@waldzz
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
Guaraldi registered 👀👂
@repmidwest
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
Loved my years in Beijing. Amazing music scenes. Check out an old YouTube series THE SOUND STAGE with tons of performances and translated interview with bands. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCA029C31D4AA597F&si=gbUZCRYlAeiCk0pm
@wheelsofmercury
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
Pretty awesome video! Really like the band with the Mongolian throat singing; they remind me of The Hu and Tengger Cavalry!
@mylim4020
September 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm
considering the language barrier, this is a extremely well-researched and produced video