Busting Climate Change Myths | Answers With Joe
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Earth Day was this weekend, so I thought it would be a good opportunity to look at some of the most common myths promoted by climate change skeptics and see what the science has to say about it. Links to supporting material below.
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More about the Robbers Cave Experiment:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/apr/16/a-real-life-lord-of-the-flies-the-troubling-legacy-of-the-robbers-cave-experiment
More about the fossil fuel industry and tobacco companies using the same tactics:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/tobacco-and-oil-industries-used-same-researchers-to-sway-public1/
Peter Doran’s Climate Science Survey:
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1029/2009EO030002
Climate change consensus same as smoking and cancer:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/climate-risks-as-conclusive-as-link-between-smoking-and-lung-cancer/
Why CO2 alone won’t help plants grow:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/plants-wont-help-fight-global-warming-as-much-as-wed-thought-57646253/
Lori Fenton’s paper on Mars warming:
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature05718
On the single cause fallacy that climate change in the past is the reason why it’s changing now:
https://www.skepticalscience.com/climate-change-little-ice-age-medieval-warm-period-intermediate.htm
Sulphur Dioxide trends in relation to volcanic activity:
https://www.epa.gov/air-trends/sulfur-dioxide-trends
An article about Debbie Dooley:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/28/business/energy-environment/debbie-dooley-energy.html
Military Times article about pentagon planning for climate change:
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2017/09/12/pentagon-is-still-preparing-for-global-warming-even-though-trump-said-to-stop/
Exxon Mobil new CEO embracing the carbon tax:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-23/exxon-s-new-chief-endorses-carbon-tax-to-combat-climate-change
Study on Exxon Mobil scientists and internal communications:
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/22082017/study-confirms-exxon-misled-public-about-climate-change-authors-say
@joescott
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
Just a heads up everybody, this is a highly polarizing topic, and while discussion and debate are always encouraged, abuse and trolling is not. So be respectful or I'll start dropping the ban hammer. Toodles!
@conalohairt
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
I agree that humans are having a negative effect on our climate.
I think we should be doing more to mitigate that effect.
But… the scientists that push climate change make their living by pushing climate change AND the scare tactics have been misleading…. overstated.
@Buckshot99
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
You lost me when you started comparing energy with tobacco. That is a naive and dishonest, frankly stupid comparison. Smoking tobacco is s bourgeois habit, energy, specifically oil made the modern world you live in.
@StoicThrower
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
I smoke and burn lots of fossil fuel. I fall in the hoax category. The whole issue is being used to manipulate the public. Its all about the money!
@7071SydcHome
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
Is an Ice Age Coming? | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios
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@ChrisAnderson-ik8bo
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
Oh also, if you "just stop oil" you also stop green energy development… Over 90% of sustainability projects, green energy researchers and energy technology companies are owned by the top 3 pil producers… Quot blocking roads with your orange oil based vests and oil based plastic starbucks cups…
@joeivo911
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
You can cherry pick data to show anything.
@briankane6547
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
THAT word AGAIN?
"offov"
@AllIsWellaus
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
Busting myths with facs. Yeah that will never work….. I feel your pain.
@1evilace1
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
lol.
Now do covid vaccine myths Joe/
@patrickf9217
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
Of course 97% of climatologist believe in climate change. They have a degree in climate change!
@patrickf9217
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
Of course 97% of climatologist believe in climate change. They have a degree in climate change!
@patrickf9217
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
Of course 97% of climatologist believe in climate change. They have a degree in climate change!
@KaosProject21
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
lol we are at the end of an ice age, the temperature is gonna go up continually.
funny how you say single cause about natural climate change and then NOT about anthropogenic. what we really need are sets of models projected out from various human development levels and populations…
the real question is how much climate change is actually anthropomorphic…
and also whether we give a shit
because if the climate is becoming unsurvivable naturally we are still fucked…
and still have to figure out geoengineering to continue living here…
@KaosProject21
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
sun exposure doesn't cause skin cancer.
migration causes skin cancer….
amelanism causes skin cancer
nobody gets skin cancer in their natural biome…
evolution
@wswanberg
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
Cringed every time I heard Joe mispronounce albedo.
@pgtmr2713
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
Wow actually using the phony graphs and thinking smugly you have something there. Each and every one of those graphs are turned. Twisted in relation to the X,Y Axis, to show an upward trend, and/or the upward hockey stick is a projected future that never happens. ALL of the graphs also start at recent cold points in history as well.
@Doodlebugthegoldenhamster
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
Is it just me, or does this guy’s voice kind of sound like Charlie Day?
@darthnater71
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
i think the bigest issues is one you touched on lightly; and that's "company's and government".
so people are just to stop everything untill either or thoes two actully start doing something?
like Grants for puting solar or wind turbines; heating pumps a actual fire. use to have that; than they stoped it.
the issue isn't us as the people. we arn't helping but its the companys and goverment not helping at all. Carbin tax, and how does that stop anything? give goverment money for what? i don't see that tax beeing put back to the people who hired them.
@jasonwhited2710
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
bro listen to what your saying u are rite about muddying the water but it gos both ways there corporations out there that set to gain billions changing to to other types of fuel so it gos both ways the fact is if we won’t to survive as a civilization we are going to have to take to the stars so global warming is bullshitt it’s true but your talking a 1000 years from now before any real threat and if we have not took to the stars by then by by for us anyways
@coffeebeanB
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
Reminder to self: never read the comments section on a topic where there are steongly ignorant people who cling onto fishy "facts" to go against a very obvious issue. Also, reminder to self: there are people who think the future of our natural world is a political issue and that the government is out to control us💀💀 they should take their "freedom" buy some land in a random place without government and not consume anything that has come from a government-led country
@zatar123
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
Assuming that we can reclaim control of the government from big business
We very much need to pass laws that make the welfare of the planet as a whole a more important thing that business must attend to than their shareholders bottom line.
From what you said at the start of this video, We won't survive as a civilization if we don't do this on a global scale
@lorenmars5244
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
How about more data like, How do we know it's man made? How do we know it's not a coincidence? Not just "Scientist mostly agree."
@4713Caine
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
"I don't care about algore" the problem is when al gore was parading himself around with his movie, climate scientists were not warning us of possible inaccuracies before watching it. Otherwise, teachers wouldn't have taken their kids to see the movie. Now that al gore has outlived his usefulness, climate scientists suddenly throw him under the bus long after the fact. Climate Scientists, this behavior does not reflect well on you.
@4713Caine
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
I'm not convinced the earth is cooling and humans are not involved. However, so many graphs you put up are of ridiculously short time periods…when you consider them in the context of billions of years of climate history, nearly all of which is unaccounted for by modern instruments…you have to rely on proxies for almost all of it, but you have almost no years of direct measurements to compare the proxies to.
@4713Caine
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
the difference between climate scientists and experts in other fields is climate scientists are asking for LARGELY POLITICAL ACTION. My doctor doesn't tell me how to vote, nor does my lawyer.
@4713Caine
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
Consensus: the consensus was arrived at by taking polling data of abstracts of scientific papers. They did not factor in whether scientists like michael mann from the IPCC have power over other scientists, other positions of power like editorial boards or managing editors of major scientific publications, nor did they factor in discussions of critical pieces of evidence ie. temperature records that aren't verified by a consensus, they are verified at that moment in time by those few individuals taking the readings……
@4713Caine
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
2:38: you're missing a part of that $ equation here. Yes, as a business oil companies are going to do everything in their power to protect their bottom line, and yes, they stand to lose $ over global warming action. But you're missing the other half of that story: the green energy industry has everything to lose if WE DONT ACT, and that fact may be lost on you and climate scientists, but it's not lost on me and other skeptics. Telling me you're unbiased doesn't make it so. The stronger the climate action, the more the green energy industry profits. And I assure you, they see dollar signs just as much as oil executives see dollar signs in the opposite direction. Nobody should be given a free pass.
@4713Caine
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
"climate change isn't a political issue." if it's not a political issue, then people believing it's true without supporting political action to address anything should be acceptable to you, but I suspect that's not the case. If it's expected that once we believe in global warming, we are expected to take political action to "address it" then it's not entirely scientific motivation, there is a clearly expected political outcome: that we will buy electric cars, and implement expensive green energy policy at the national level, and fuel the green energy industry at generous taxpayer expense. And when climate research funding becomes part of that taxpayer equation, It begs the question: to what extent is the science driving the policy, and to what extent is the policy driving the science.
@NicholasNerios
March 12, 2025 at 10:12 pm
Yeah we humans are the cause of the rapid climb in global temperatures.
Although my personal thought is its still climate equalization all the same.
Looking back to the Cretaceous or Jurassic periods which lasted hundred millions of years, with the largest amount of plant and animal diversity, the small blip of a few hundred thousand years humans have been around were still living in the end of an ice age, and the earth is just getting back to its normal operating temperatures, or was bound to happen we just ushered it in cheering for the warmer climate.