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Ben Shapiro: Politics, Kanye, Trump, Biden, Hitler, Extremism, and War | Lex Fridman Podcast #336

Lex Fridman | February 3, 2025



Ben Shapiro is a conservative political commentator, host of The Ben Shapiro Show, co-founder of The Daily Wire, and author of The Authoritarian Moment and other books.
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Facts (Still) Don’t Care About Your Feelings: https://amzn.to/3T3Hwgs
How to Destroy America in Three Easy Steps: https://amzn.to/3fxmeKx
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How to Debate Leftists and Destroy Them: https://amzn.to/3FLHR4z
Facts Don’t Care about Your Feelings: https://amzn.to/3UrcBvL
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*OUTLINE:*
0:00 – Introduction
2:01 – Kanye ‘Ye’ West
9:41 – Hitler and the nature of evil
17:47 – Political attacks on the left and the right
23:31 – Quebec mosque shooting
33:26 – Elon Musk buying Twitter
46:29 – Trump and Biden
51:03 – Hunter Biden’s laptop
1:02:36 – Candace Owens
1:06:15 – War in Ukraine
1:16:24 – Rhetoric vs truth
1:21:19 – Infamous BBC interview
1:24:35 – Day in the life
1:39:31 – Abortion
1:52:26 – Climate change
1:59:48 – God and faith
2:10:58 – Tribalism
2:15:34 – Advice for young people
2:19:20 – Andrew Breitbart
2:21:50 – Self-doubt
2:23:52 – Love

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  1. @lexfridman

    February 3, 2025 at 9:32 pm

    Thank you for listening ❤ Check out our sponsors: https://lexfridman.com/sponsors/ep336-sa
    See below for timestamps, transcript, and to give feedback, submit questions, contact Lex, etc.
    0:00 – Introduction
    2:01 – Kanye 'Ye' West
    9:41 – Hitler and the nature of evil
    17:47 – Political attacks on the left and the right
    23:31 – Quebec mosque shooting
    33:26 – Elon Musk buying Twitter
    46:29 – Trump and Biden
    51:03 – Hunter Biden's laptop
    1:02:36 – Candace Owens
    1:06:15 – War in Ukraine
    1:16:24 – Rhetoric vs truth
    1:21:19 – Infamous BBC interview
    1:24:35 – Day in the life
    1:39:31 – Abortion
    1:52:26 – Climate change
    1:59:48 – God and faith
    2:10:58 – Tribalism
    2:15:34 – Advice for young people
    2:19:20 – Andrew Breitbart
    2:21:50 – Self-doubt
    2:23:52 – Love

    Transcript:
    https://lexfridman.com/ben-shapiro-transcript

    CONTACT LEX:
    Feedback – give feedback to Lex: https://lexfridman.com/survey
    AMA – submit questions, videos or call-in: https://lexfridman.com/ama
    Hiring – join our team: https://lexfridman.com/hiring
    Other – other ways to get in touch: https://lexfridman.com/contact

    EPISODE LINKS:
    Ben's Twitter: https://twitter.com/benshapiro
    Ben's Instagram: https://instagram.com/officialbenshapiro
    Daily Wire: https://dailywire.com
    Ben's Books:
    The Authoritarian Moment: https://amzn.to/3T3RRJv
    Facts (Still) Don't Care About Your Feelings: https://amzn.to/3T3Hwgs
    How to Destroy America in Three Easy Steps: https://amzn.to/3fxmeKx
    The Right Side of History: https://amzn.to/3E3jGgS
    How to Debate Leftists and Destroy Them: https://amzn.to/3FLHR4z
    Facts Don't Care about Your Feelings: https://amzn.to/3UrcBvL
    Books mentioned:
    The Strongman: https://amzn.to/3U8f2U7
    Economics in One Lesson: https://amzn.to/3DWAbLA
    The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self: https://amzn.to/3DTGlej

    SPONSORS:
    To support this podcast, check out our sponsors & get discounts:
    ExpressVPN: Fast & secure VPN.
    Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/expressvpn-ep336-sa
    Policygenius: Life insurance.
    Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/policygenius-ep336-sa
    BetterHelp: Online therapy and counseling.
    Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/betterhelp-ep336-sa

  2. @pancraseash9002

    February 3, 2025 at 9:32 pm

    This has been editied the part nesr 7.50 when Ben shapiro tslks about different types of antisemitism he said " so you just get rid of Christianity it gets rid of the religious Anti Semitis" why did they erase…

  3. @IJO221

    February 3, 2025 at 9:32 pm

    I’ve watched quite a bit of lex Friedman and I still don’t know where he sits. He is really good at getting his guests to just say what they feel and have nuance with it and push them.

  4. @UncleBubbatheOG33

    February 3, 2025 at 9:32 pm

    Look where it’s at now… those who Trump called for, Nazis… Shipiro still at Alex Jones boots licking them, Rex Jones last time I saw was Shipros lookalike puppet doing the eyebrows. It’s sick! Alex claims to be Cristian then says “he will kill his family and eat his neighbor.” Christ said “not to eat human flesh or drink human blood.” Also last commandment he left was “Love one another, be fruitful and multiply.” Sounds also like old testament of “Love thy Neighbor.” *Also on Alex Jones l, Rosanne of all people talked about being Jewish but gonna stand by Trumps side while calling for Nazi generals, “She Devil,” interesting movie she was in. Anyway… what happened to Shipro saying he was going to “Denounce Alex,” on this very podcast? But then being Jewish gonna stand by Trumps side also while Trump called for Nazi. I can keep going for hrs on it all Lex.

  5. @morganophelia5963

    February 3, 2025 at 9:32 pm

    for you History will not be changed by allowing freedom of speech and a flow of information exchange and a plethora of views (that merely gives you many viewpoints to choose from) however when strict narrative control is imposed and there is a lack of information exchanges allowed or only allowed under strict scrutiny or sometimes not allowed at all, this is what changes history (a lack of transparency) something I will never stand for, even though I may disagree with whomever I'm engaging with I still stand for your right to say it that's what makes for a free and open society where objective and often controversial points of view and discussions can actually happen no matter how uncomfortable they make you feel remember feelings do not matter in a mature society all feelings of being offended lead to overtly and often tyrannical weaponized narrative control . In truth freedom of speech really truly only matters when it's the opposing viewpoints, the hard ones you don't want to hear when you refuse to go out of comfortable zone you stifle your wisdom. If discussion and "truth" has to be rigidly controlled then it's not truth . – for their can, be no true freedom in thought in a regime of propagandized and weaponized narrative control -Maggie Morgan 2023

    My quotes To those in foreign councils and legislation seeking to prohibit the 1st amendment right of average law-abiding American citizens in regard to criticism of the Jewish people and the nation state of Israel, aren't receiving push back due to hatred or antisemitism but rather they are experiencing the effects of their own self fulfilled prophecy. – Maggie Morgan 2024

    the international holocaust remembrance alliance (IHRA) is pushing an antisemitism bill without the regular run of the mill legislation to put well a gag order on free speech is that not a form of power ?? not saying that it is a "conspiracy" necessarily but certainly you have to be smart enough to see that pushing a legislative gag order on any form of critique of Israel/Jewish people/Judaism is only going to embolden the "conspiracy" speak, you can't be this ignorant

  6. @Vidarl-_-l

    February 3, 2025 at 9:32 pm

    You see, just as when there's a storm you don't report it as saying some dudes say it is a storm and some others disagree, you don't (unless you're unbearably naive or ill willed) give voice to everyone, especially to people like this mediocre Saphiro, who for some reason I cannot understand get so much attention from the media. You Lex, are further helping toxic ignorants like this to thrive instead of giving voice to the people to do what it's actually right. Give voice to those whose opinion has a value, and to those who have no voice. If it rains, go and open the window to feel the rain. Reporting what people says about the rain is just stupid in the best of cases. It is immoral giving voice to miserables like this or like Nethanyahu. Do you really need those likes and views that much? Can't you really find the tension between what you say and what you do, Lex? I see this guy in your space and I feel betrayed. Damn I used to like your program, then you present this? Goddamn' it, Lex!

  7. @myrtlemoore7611

    February 3, 2025 at 9:32 pm

    It keeps going into the jewish problem black people have had a problem ever since we were shipped here the holocaust was horrible so was slavery and slavery went on from generation to generation to generation to generation to generation through generations he needs to talk about something real too which is the black slavery

  8. @myrtlemoore7611

    February 3, 2025 at 9:32 pm

    I understand this guy has his own opinion some of it is right and some of it is wrong because he's not God so that makes him infallible so all that he says is Nat true some of it and most of it is

  9. @myrtlemoore7611

    February 3, 2025 at 9:32 pm

    Kanye West has a mental disorder that's what that is that's why it takes medicine he's dealing with the trauma of his mother's dad his Divorce his children he has bipolar disorder so that doesn't count his opinions don't count only way it counts it because he's rich

  10. @ashkan3509

    February 3, 2025 at 9:32 pm

    I agree 💯

    Inspirational Quotes from the Talmud (Sacred Text of the Jewish Faith)

    Talmud: Sanhedrin 59a: “Murdering Goyim (non-jew) is like killing a WILD ANIMAL.”

    Talmud: Yebhamoth 11b: “Sexual INTERCOURSE with a little girl is permitted if she is THREE years of age.”

    Talmud: Abodah Zara 26b: “Even the best of the goyem (non-jew) SHOULD BE KILLED.”

    Talmud: Schabouth Hag. 6d: “Jews may SWEAR FALSELY and LIE by use of trickery wording.”

    Talmud: Szaaloth-Utszabot:The Book of Jore Dia 17: “A Jew SHOULD and MUST make a FALSE oath when the Goyim (non-jew) asks if our books contain anything against them.”

    Talmud: Libbre David 37: “To communicate anything to a non-jew about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the non-Jews knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.”

    Talmud: Sanhedrin 59a: “A non-jew who looks into Talmud is guilty of death.” (That refers to me, looking into their Talmud as we speak..)

    Talmud: Hilkkoth Akum X1: “DO NOT save non-Jew in danger of death.”

    Talmud: Hilkkoth Akum X1: “Show NO MERCY to the non-Jew”.

    Talmud: Choschen Hamm 266,1: “A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the non-jew. For he who returns lost property (to them) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. HOWEVER, It is praiseworthy, to return lost property if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people.”

    Talmud: Baba Necia 114, 6: “The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are NOT HUMAN BEINGS but beasts.”

    Talmud: Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: “When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves.”

    Talmud: Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: “Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form SO THAT THE JEW IS NOT SERVED BY BEASTS. The non-Jew is consequently AN ANIMAL in human form, and condemned to SERVE THE JEW day and night.”

    Talmud: Gad. Shas. 2:2: “A JEW MAY VIOLATE non-Jewish girl, but cannot marry her”

    Talmud: Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: “If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a non-jew he is NOT responsible.”

    Talmud: Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: “ALL PROPERTIES OF OTHER NATIONS belongs to the JEWISH NATION which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples.”

    Talmud: Seph. Jp., 92, 1: “God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations.”

    Talmud: Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: “A Jew is forbidden to drink from a glass of wine which a non-jew has touched, because the touch has made the wine unclean.”

    Talmud: Libbre David 37: “If a Jew be called upon to explain any part of the rabbinic books, he SHOULD GIVE A FALSE EXPLANATION . Who ever will violate this order shall be put to death.”

    Talmud: Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156: “When a Jew has a non-Jew in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same non-jew, lend him money and in turn DECEIVE HIM , so that the non-jew shall be RUINED. For the property of a non-new, according to our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has FULL RIGHT to seize it.”

    Some of Israels atrocious include:

    Haifa Massacre 1937
    Jerusalem Massacre 1937
    Haifa Massacre 1938
    Jerusalem Massacre – 1938
    Balad al-Sheikh Massacre 1939
    Haifa Massacre 1939
    Haifa Massacre 1947
    Akka Massacre 1947
    Abbasiya Massacre 1947
    Balad al-Sheikh Massacre 1947
    Al-Khisas Massacre 1947
    Bab al-Amud Massacre 1947
    Jerusalem Massacre 1947
    Sheikh Bureik Massacre 1947
    Jaffa Massacre 1948
    Al Tantura Massacre 1948
    Deir Yasin Massacre 1948
    Al-Saraya Massacre 1948
    The Semiramis Massacre 1948
    Jerusalem Massacre – 1948
    Al-Saraya Al-Arabeya Massacre 1948
    Lydda Massacre 1948
    Ramla Massacre 1948
    Yazur Massacre 1948
    Haifa Massacre 1948
    Tabra Tulkarem Massacre 1948
    Sa'sa' Massacre 1948
    Abu Kabir Massacre 1948
    Cairo Train Massacre 1948
    Qalunya Massacre 1948
    Nasir al-Din Massacre 1948
    Tiberias Massacre 1948
    Ayn al-Zaytoun Massacre 1948
    Safed Massacre 1948
    Abu Shusha Massacre 1948
    Beit Daras Massacre 1948
    Al-Husayniyya Massacre 1948
    Khan Yunis Massacre 1956
    Kafr Qasim Massacre 1956
    Jerusalem Massacre 1967
    Sabra and Shatila Massacre 1982
    Al-Aqsa Massacre 1990
    Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre 1994
    Jenin Refugee Camp April 2002
    Gaza Massacre 2008-09
    Gaza Massacre 2012
    Gaza Massacre 2014
    Gaza Massacre 2018-19
    Gaza Massacre 2021
    Gaza Genocide 2023 ongoing

  11. @dennisdugan5676

    February 3, 2025 at 9:32 pm

    The US needs to quit funding the Nazis in the Ukraine and recognize the areas of the Ukraine that are not Ukrainian.. What are the antsemite areas of the Ukraine? The boundaries of Ukraine were drawn during the Soivet Union Era. Since 2014 the Nazis in the Ukraine have oppressed the ethnic Russian speakers and changed their constitution to make minorities second class citizens and killed and oppressed them. The war in the Ukraine was started during the OBAMA administration, by the OBAMA administration under the Cliinton State Department with Joe Biden and Boris Johnson stopping and preventing a peasce agreement during a conference in 2019 that took place in 2019 in Turkey. Ultimately Joe Biden is responsible for the Deaths of over 600,000 Ukrainians and Russians. Ben Shapiro appears to be ignorant and clueless as to the history of the war in the Ukraine. The war in the Ukraine needs to be stopped before it becomes World War III.

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