Why Supposed Epstein Note Is ‘Hard to Believe’ | The Daily Beast Podcast
Joanna Coles speaks with Glenn Kirschner, former federal prosecutor and host of Justice Matters, about what he calls America’s accelerating constitutional crisis, from Donald Trump’s “unconstitutional war” with Iran and Pete Hegseth’s role in deadly military actions to the explosive fallout over the Epstein files and the firing of Pam Bondi. Kirschner explains why he believes Trump is using global conflict to distract from mounting Epstein scrutiny, why the Department of Justice has become “Donald Trump’s DOJ,” and why accountability for January 6, classified documents, ICE shootings in Minneapolis, and even Trump himself could still come after 2028. In a stunning final stretch, Kirschner openly questions the official narrative around Jeffrey Epstein’s death, drawing on his decades prosecuting homicide cases to explain why he remains deeply unconvinced by the newly released purported suicide note and why the fight over the Epstein files is far from over.
00:00 – Epstein Suicide Doubts Explode
04:26 – Kirschner’s Mission Against Trump
09:03 – Trump’s “Illegal War” and GOP Collapse
13:32 – Can Pete Hegseth Face Prosecution?
18:31 – How Trump Could Still Be Charged
23:00 – ICE Shootings and DOJ Obstruction Claims
27:49 – Can Kristi Noem Be Held Accountable?
32:24 – Epstein Files, Suicide Note and DOJ Distrust
36:02 – Why Kirschner Still Doesn’t Believe Epstein Killed Himself
#trump #epsteinfiles #news #podcast
📖 Title: Why Supposed Epstein Note Is ‘Hard to Believe’
👂 Podcast: The Daily Beast Podcast
📺 Episode: 694
🎧 Format: Full Podcast
📅 Date: May 8, 2026
👨💼 Guest: Glenn Kirschner
🎙️ Host: Joanna Coles
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@Chereese0808
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
#Joanna dear,
With Glenn Kirchner doubting the opinion of a person or persons that have ptoven to us that they can't be trusted, does NOT make him or anyone else a conspiracy theorist.
@janekosola2056
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
Please have Glenn on again. He is so knowledgeable and honorable. And Joanna, you are a wonderful interviewer. Great show today.
@janekosola2056
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
I live in north central MN and what was done to Good and Pretti is heartbreaking. Their families are grieving. They will never be able to heal until they see justice. Justice matters! These were cold-blooded murders.
@maryannetoman3882
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
Why don't you have a republican on your show????? I k own why bc you are the communist propaganda news😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@janekosola2056
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
When a president commits crimes, it is ridiculous that s/he cannot be prosecuted. The VP can assume the presidency and the president should be sidelined until the case is resolved. Why the hell should a criminal become president and escape prosecution simply because he is president? When the president is incapacitated for any other reason, the VP is sworn in. CHANGE THE DAMN IMMUNITY RULE. SHAME ON THE SCOTUS.
@janekosola2056
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
Trump will not leave peacefully. Why do you think he wants a fortified bunker AND a dance hall? He even wants a fully equipped hospital in the bunker, for pete's sake!! Hospitals alone cost millions to build and equip. Donald sees himself dancing away in the ballroom and taking cover in the bunker, refusing to leave. And now he plans to use the military to fill the seats at his UFC birthday bash. Will it be MAGA supporters or will it be the admirals and generals, etc. whom undoubtedly would decline because they are not political and know Trump is a Putin tool.
@janekosola2056
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
Right out of the gate, Glenn smashed it!
@leannatimmerman9922
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
Wonderful interview!!! One of your best, Joanna!
@harose18
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
Thank you Joanna and Glenn.
Indicting trump officials like Kristi Noem and Stephen Miller for conspiracy to deny Constitutional rights will be as clear as indicting trump for January 6th. We all saw with our own eyes how thousands were illegally detained in violation of the 4th and 6th Amendments and many others were illegally sent to El Salvador and other country's concentration camps.
Horribly, the stain of federal crimes will remain long after this nightmare is over.
@cherylsouza4926
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
Total fake S. note. Easy peasy to dismiss, the syntax of the writing is not Epstein's.
@SmilingIbis
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
The indictments may be revived and legitimately pursued, but the idea that Trump will live much beyond age 82 with enough mental competence to stand trial is a fantasy. Unless it's like digging up and beheading the corpse of Oliver Cromwell, he will get away with it all.
@rockemsockemofo
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
Warren Zevon for the win Glenn! Lawyers Guns and Money, is that why you became a lawyer? You could have easily became a gunsmith or a banker huh lol
@mbak7801
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
If Trump lives out his term I can see him pardoning himself and his family but possibly nobody else. He has no loyalty himself and is cruel enough to enjoy seeing his former supporters end up in jail. It woul be good to see Hegseth go down.
@joannebattersby8365
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
Oh well. Keep saying " smash".Bye bye. Perhaps you can increase your vocabulary some day. Hurts my ears. Meidas Touch does it too. Sounds assinine and is assinine.🇨🇦
@joannebattersby8365
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
Joanna, do not say " Smash" the button . Use your vocabulary or i will " Smash" the button and leave your channel.
@InternationalMysteries360
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
I still say we need a civil rights March where the 65% march, peacefully on Congress.
@InternationalMysteries360
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
Why are we here? Because people didn’t vote. Thus we have the worst president ever and Republican Congress with the courage of a flea.
@buttegal1
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
I've long respected Glenn. Now I must support his tireless work in a more meaningful way. Thank you, Joanna and Glenn, for this conversation!🎉❤
@Vic-q2x-t4d
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
There has been an erosion of the American education system over the decades. 54% of American citizens read below the 6th grade level. The government cut public school funding. The best and brightest went into other careers due to low salaries. Curricula no longer implemented tried and true methods for teaching basics, and the lack of parental support for teachers is/was the cherry on top. THAT is one of the main reasons as to why this administration and president are in the White House.
@jonathancrellin3571
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
Hi Joanna that was an interesting account by a noted US Prosecutor. But after initially taking it, I started to find errors within his statement that the 302 Interview notes were Direct Evidence (i.e. witness statement of events they directly experienced). Actually a 302 memo is an FBI agents summary of an interview, so its not DIRECT evidence but actually HEARSAY evidence. The FBI did not follow it up (it did relate to an event 30 years earlier, which apparently pre dated Epsetin and Trump's relationship). Also there was a case in California 2016 where a complainant known as Katie Johnson (pseudo name) made very similar claims. There were differneces from the 302 memo as well. Also there is a story about how a producer for the Jerry Springer Show (which was based on disturbing fact/fictional disputes) was accused of creating this criminal accusation in 2016.
The description of the 302 memo as DIRECT evidence is a surprising mistake for an experience US Attourney and Prosecutor. I hope you can follow this up.
I do find your interviews with people like this, and of course with the delightful Micheal Wolf, We all worry by the obvious problems with Trump presidency.
BTW I was born in Lancashire, although I lived in North Yorkshire for most of my early life. So no Wars of the Roses please 🙂
@SFL-6
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
Always interesting show.
@Odyssey2049
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
Glenn Kirschner is a beacon of integrity.
I will never not listen when he is talking.
Thank you for bringing us such a fantastic guest ❤
@danapaul2750
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
I love Glenn! ❤
@angeodeleo
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
Under which president Epstein was killed?
@NanaUBzns
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
Such a wonderful and informative Guest!
@toniloflin7868
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
AWESOME 💙
@upnorth-s8v
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
I trust Glenn wholeheartedly and I respect him even more so… This is coming from a 45 years as a Republican since Reagan…. He's a straightshooter… Hats off to you sir!!
@gondwanaland3238
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
If that suicide not was genuine it would have been released for the public to see years ago.
@vikiLarouche-q4c
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
"You sunk my Battleship" ….At least this board game was won through strategy. Now trump blows up ships with no questions asked!!! That's a crime in itself…
@roscozone8092
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
~40% of fertilizer for global agricultural purposes is also shipped via the Strait of Hormuz. Quite apart from the energy crisis, the world's food supply is also being threatened by the blockade…
@barrypower7259
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
Epstein didn't kill himself he wouldn't have the balls to do it. He was murdered by trump and his billionaire " friends". Trump is president for 1 reason and that is to protect these billionaire pedophiles. Everything he does is to distract from these Epstein files and if thousands of people die in the meantime so be it. The Republicans will win the mid terms and life will get even worse than it already is because the rich have decided that thats the only way they can get away with all the crimes they have done and continue to do.
@B26768
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
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@Samuel-rq7gq
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
Are there fingerprints on a suicide note ?
@MaureenBennett-j8s
May 10, 2026 at 4:51 pm
Who most needed Epstein dead? His close pal Trump and Trump’s rich cronies. The authorities are obviously corrupt in covering up this murder.