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More Plates More Dates on TRT, How to Burn Fat, Build Muscle & MAXIMIZE Your Energy

Tom Bilyeu | November 8, 2025



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On Today’s Episode:

When we talk about testosterone, it’s mostly associated with men, and when it’s too low it’s a big problem for libido and physique among other things. In reality it’s an important hormone for everyone, women included, but not many women are as concerned with TRT or testosterone replacement therapy like men are.

TRT and any kind of hormonal therapy is a big deal and should be approached with caution and lots of research. As a generally healthy male thinking about TRT, how much thought should you be giving to optimizing your testosterone levels over optimizing your physique for optimal health?

This episode is a deep dive into the kinds of things men will want to consider when thinking about testosterone, burning fat and building muscle. It goes without saying, your quality of sleep and diet play a major role in monitoring your testosterone.

While we all have an ideal body-type we think is the best, no one wants to have a stunning physique, inflated ego and testosterone so low your sex life becomes non-existent.

Derek of More Plates More Dates, shares his thoughts on what you should consider doing if you want to get jacked in 18 months being natty and how to differentiate being lazy from being defeated by unrealistic expectations of what’s achievable without drug enhancements.

Shawn Stevenson steps into the latter part of this episode to talk about your metabolic fingerprint and individualizing your health and diet goals in a practical way that actually works for you.

Derek of More Plates More Dates hit 1 Million subscribers in less than a year of starting his YouTube channel with total dedication to all things self-improvement in the health and wellness arena for men.

Shawn Stevenson is the best selling author of Eat Smarter and host of the Model Health Show where he’s talking with world-renowned experts on health, fitness, and nutrition. His personal story of overcoming severe health problems that had him chronically debilitated is remarkable and testament to how deep his knowledge and concern for real and practical health advice goes.

Check out Shawn’s latest book, Eat Smarter: https://www.amazon.com/Eat-Smarter-Metabolism-Upgrade-Transform-ebook/dp/B07W3M55SP

QUOTES:

“There’s a lot of skewing of what people see as a good physique now.” -Derek

“Most people that don’t have the physique that is the peak of their genetic potential is out of lack of willpower and adherence to something consistently.” – Derek

“I prioritize other things over body composition for a while now, [..] it would be unreasonable for me to expect to maintain my lifts at what they were because I used to use reasonable amounts of steroids, whereas now I don’t use those.” -Derek

“Your metabolism next week is going to be significantly different, it’s constantly changing and evolving.” -Shawn Stevenson

“People coming in may know, yeah I know I need to change what I’m eating, but they’re so far removed from understanding how powerful it is and what to do about it because of the cookie cutter stuff.” -Shawn Stevenson

“Many of these diet frameworks, even though they can be wonderful, they can also imprison you and they can leave things out, make things off limits that you may need…” -Shawn Stevenson

“Chronic nutrient deficiency leads to chronic overeating.” -Shawn Stevenson

Follow Derek:
Website: https://moreplatesmoredates.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/moreplatesmoredates/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/derek_fitness
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MorePlates
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MorePlatesMoreDates

Follow Shawn Stevenson:
Website: https://themodelhealthshow.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shawnmodel/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/ShawnModel
Podcast: https://themodelhealthshow.com/podcasts/

Written by Tom Bilyeu

Comments

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  1. @GianniCaesar

    November 8, 2025 at 9:15 pm

    If you are serious about increasing your testosterone naturally you should read Complete Guide tò Testosterone by James Francis. He Is over 50 not on TRT and has levels of a younger man. He knows this subject really well.

  2. @ChrisSamson01

    November 8, 2025 at 9:15 pm

    The best advice currently out there for testosterone is Complete Guide To Testosterone by James Francis. He is a natural older man and his protocol works well not only for increasing testosterone levels but also long term maintenance of testosterone levels into your 50s and 60s. Using this I am currently 884 ng/DL.

  3. @gg7721-g3f

    November 8, 2025 at 9:15 pm

    TRT is for life most men unless they destroyed their natural hormone production via steroids or have a medical condition causing low testosterone can fix the problem without drugs. Complete guide to testosterone by james Francis is what I used with great results. If you are not happy with your testosterone levels then give it a go.

  4. @GianniCaesar

    November 8, 2025 at 9:15 pm

    If you are serious about increasing your testosterone naturally you should read Complete Guide tò Testosterone by James Francis. He knows this subject really well.

  5. @tnewen7070

    November 8, 2025 at 9:15 pm

    Hi, i myself 43yr old have a very low trt score of 91. Been playing sport all my life , but going through family issue, now Feeling fatigued inflammation after execise or sport, im not over weight, want to go on trt, but have a minor CAD ( coronary artery disease have have a sten put in, but neave have chest pain problem prior ) . Is it safe to be on trt ?

  6. @JP-fx4ki

    November 8, 2025 at 9:15 pm

    Good luck “naturally” increasing your test. Doesn’t work like that. My doctor laughed her ass off at me when I dropped 100 lbs and completely changed my diet for 2 years and expected it to be higher. T was 19 points lower. TRT it is.

  7. @EtienneLeBoeuf

    November 8, 2025 at 9:15 pm

    Optimise your natural testosterone production. Much better long term strategy. I went from 334 to 960 in around 3 months all natural no TRT. This book should be essential reading for all men. Written by a 50s guy with natural T levels higher than most 20s guys
    Complete guide to testosterone by james Francis

  8. @AcmeRocket

    November 8, 2025 at 9:15 pm

    Most have already convinced themselves they need TRT becuase they want it vs. actually needing it. If you want to find someone to convince you to do it, you will.

  9. @banagan4604

    November 8, 2025 at 9:15 pm

    Everyone wants a short cut. There's TRT and TET. Most guys in their 30' and 40s, looking to get jacked, probably have sufficient T, >500, but would rather jab themselves so they're at PED levels, that's enhancement, not replacement. Putting the work in and checking all the other boxes, diet, sleep etc, should be enough to raise your T naturally and build muscle… but it all comes down to avoiding doing the work. Each to their own, but in this case, to get jacked with as little effort as possible, it's not replacement, it's enhancement.

    Yes, we're both at the summit of the mountain, but you got a chair lift, I climbed. We are not the same.

  10. @BrianMcGuire-u5s

    November 8, 2025 at 9:15 pm

    The training has already been figured out. The Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding by Arnold Schwarzenegger. It's a 6 day training schedule with 3 days split training ( a.m. and p.m.) 40 grams protein every 90 minutes. Carbohydrates are dependent on bulking and cutting cycles. Anabolics are also dependent on both. HGH and insulin, etc. Is dependent on the individual and how far they are willing to go. Working up to the Advanced levels is dependent upon age and motivation. Derek here is maintaining at his current schedule, I am pretty sure. Failure should be achieved on every set.

  11. @Jaycee3

    November 8, 2025 at 9:15 pm

    It's not rocket science. If you don't want TRT, which honestly isn't natural since once you start the injections, your body will say 'oh, we don't need to produce it since it's coming from elsewhere' (and your balls shrink), then you should sleep well (your body creates it when you sleep), eat whole foods (meat/fats), and do Mike Mentzer training — hit the weights as hard as possible TWICE A WEEK WITH AMPLE REST (4-6 DAYS) IN BETWEEN. Get sunlight. And do what humans did in the past.

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