LIVESTREAM : White men getting lost: RPH vs. The Odyssey (2026)
Join us this SATURDAY ( 2:30 PST/3:30 MT/4:30 CT/5:30 ET) for a special live edition of Red Power Hour featuring co-hosts Melanie Yazzie and Elena Ortiz along with some special guests to talk about Christopher Nolan’s adaptation of The Odyssey (2026)
As usual, patrons of Red Media get priority for questions so make sure to sign up for as little as $2 a month.
www.patreon.com/redmediapr
@liln7906
September 22, 2026 at 9:03 am
Not sure if I missed this being mentioned, but The Oddessy was filmed in occupied Western Sahara (occupied by Morocco) without the consent of Saharawi's and there are currently calls asking people to boycott the movie.
@OdeToJohnTrudell
September 22, 2026 at 9:03 am
Been evading this film and everything about it so almost did not tune into this episode-
but-"White men getting lost" got me curious about what you all thought–soo. Thanks for confirming all my worst notions and more! So many more reasons to run far away from anything those hollywoods spew! Thank you. So few sheep….bah bah bah. PS. Salute to Sina of the East is a Podcast.@ryansamuels8894
September 22, 2026 at 9:03 am
Interesting indigenous 😂giving themselves Euro expression.
@JimWatkins-t2h
September 22, 2026 at 9:03 am
This analysis is pretty awful ngl lol. The feelings expressed are valid for sure, but there’s no deeper analysis, just dismissal which makes the whole convo kind of pointless. Theres like a few solid critiques and 90% complaining about stuff that’s either answered in the movie or not really relevant.
@JAllanG1
September 22, 2026 at 9:03 am
Great breakdown, I won’t watch it. Being to the revamping of Ted Danyson’s version. Or the Viking history, the looting, theft of colonialism. I read and performed passages in the 6th grade. It’s why I restore habitat in anyway I can, I can’t stand ignorance or supremacy from humans with rhythms knowledge we need more of. And not the fact that the Greeks looted Egypt then created this then Christianity became Rome and talked of a “Jesus” or how uk had to colonize Ireland then “Catholic” became a thing. It’s all imperial not principle or practice. They destroy some of last vestiges, like they did in Egypt but the grief comes from they do to erasure, but we still have memory. And these platforms are not of it.
@williamreely3455
September 22, 2026 at 9:03 am
I too wish Circe would have left them as pigs. Would've been a poetic ending.
@Comfyshawks
September 22, 2026 at 9:03 am
What are Red Media’s plans for when As Deep as the Grave comes out. There is… a lot of bullshit from it from what I’ve heard, featuring some ai generated Val Kilmer pretendian stuff, though it’s not out yet, its director, Coerte Voorhes is… a piece of work, he honestly reminds me of Jerry from Rick and Morty, but made live action. Also, he’s got a lot of the typical liberal ‘progressive’ stuff going on, I think it would be a worthy discussion for critique if any of y’all have heard of it or plan to discuss it once it comes out. (I know a film student that watched it as a preliminary and even he could admit it was at least extremely… bad, like, really bad)
@Sun4Lyfe
September 22, 2026 at 9:03 am
"White man, still searching for his belly button". Thank you all for sharing everything you do, it means a lot to this settler accomplice from the occupied down under colony .
@Badger_The_Wind_in_the_Willows
September 22, 2026 at 9:03 am
2:23 Okay, this is the first time I've heard this term. I understand that Ai is theft of all human knowledge, but the chewing up and throwing away books is a new one on me. Are you saying it is getting rid of the evidence of stealing books by deleting them from on-line? I am not doubting what you say, I just don't specifically understand what you mean by that?
@8301TheJMan
September 22, 2026 at 9:03 am
I agree with most of all your takes, however just looking at it as a film, it wasn't remotely as good as i was expecting, if anything i thought it was closer to meh than it was to brilliant. All heard about this film going in was that it was an absolute masterpiece, and though i had some major reservations about this movie during the lead up to it's release, a lot of my fears were alleviated by how much praise it was getting from both viewers and critics alike. So based on what i was hearing from seemingly everyone, when i finally went to go see it i had some pretty high expectations. And yeah, I know alot of people loved it and all – but man was a hugely disappointed. Turns out a lot of my fears turned out to be spot on, along with some other things that i didn't at all expect to be the case. The first being that It felt absolutely nothing while watching it, it surprisingly was utterly emotionless. It's an extremely well made film for the most part – no doubt, with some decent themes here and there, but those themes were never fully explored and felt very one, or at best 2, dimensional. Everything fealt very surface level to me and didn't at all feel like a passion-project like it supposedly was for Nolan. I adore some his films, primarily "Inception" and "The Prestige" which are two of my fav movies of all time, however i do also believe he's an extremely overrated director and it feels like his movies get immediate praise regardless of whether they deserve it or not, (like "Oppenheimer" or "Dunkirk" for example, two very good movies that aren't the masterpieces that many assert that they are imo).
One of the things i had trepidations over was the fact it had some awful casting choices. Not the casting choices that right-wingers were bitching about nor for the reasons they were up in arms over, (like a black Helen of Troy). Specifically I'm talking about Matta Damon, Zendaya, Thom Holland, and especially Jon Bernthal – those four were some of the worst casting choices for this type of film I have ever seen, and the reasons I thought they were all wrong for the roles they were going to play – also turned out to be spot on as well. I'm not a fan of Zendaya as an actor in general, she has very little if not non-existent range as an actor and i have legit no idea how so many have convinced themselves she's this powerhouse actress! Though she was also horrifically miscast in "Dune" as well, in that role she really surprised me with how good she did, and delivered a pretty damn good performance despite still imo being miscast, (a major reason why i think she was miscast being the fact that she's literally the one and only Fremen without an accent and instead just sounds like a typical college student at UCLA or something lol). So based on how well she did in Dune, i was hoping against hope that this would be the case in this film, that despite being miscast she'd still deliver a good performance. And yeah…. sadly it wasn't the case here.
And speaking of accents, even though it's a Hollywood trope to always have people in the ancient world have some sort of British accent or something, and though it's of course ahistorical and doesn't make sense – the fact is we have been programmed to expect it from movies or tv-shows set in a time period like this, so when it's not there is completely breaks my immersion. So the lack of accents, combined with modern day terminology, like Holland referring to his father as "dad,"), just shattered my immersion. Over all I thought the film was a perfect example of all spectacle/style and zero substance and for the life of me I can't comprehend how people believe this flat, emotionless, and lifeless husk of a film is considered a masterpiece!? Sorry for the rant lol, great discussion guys
@indofied
September 22, 2026 at 9:03 am
Appreciate Red Media! Read the book growing up. I have no interest in watching a movie about a privileged white man finding himself. I'm glad to hear your break down. Had concerns that the movie was going to be a subtle propaganda for colonial/conquistador exploitation. Shelly's first impressions landed for me. Thank you RPH!
@robertrichard6107
September 22, 2026 at 9:03 am
Thanks for watching The Odyssey for me, I recall some of your observation points from an English 101 course many years ago. The Greeks even hired the Hebrew speaking Semitic Bedouins to come up with the Septigent Bible after the many fires of the libraries in Alexandria I found out once. Anyway I was told to go watch Oppenheimer so we could discuss it with pro-nuclear weapons believers. All those physicists were puppets and Nolan potrayed the stereotype that the Nazis were going to get nukes, and then they ended the war in Japan which they didn't, it was the threat of the USSR. And the U.S. continued with 100's & 100's of B-29 Fire Bomb missions right through August 24, 1945. So I'll have to look you guys up on Patreon or make another single donation to Lakota Law.
@chancellor3.144
September 22, 2026 at 9:03 am
Seen this kid trolling online multiple times. Nah
@Sheila-u1v
September 22, 2026 at 9:03 am
A good read, The Chalice and the Blade. By Riane Eisler
@southpaw786
September 22, 2026 at 9:03 am
Great discussion thank you. There was an element that’s missing from this discussion which is the progenitor of all the Troy. This is on Asia Minor, not Europe, and its destruction, from white racist historiography, is a metaphorical severance of oxidant and orient.
For that code in a motif that’s a dogwhistle for racial separation; white Europe as exemplified by Ancient Greece and Rome, as the two pillars of of so called western civilisation.
Thus the obsession with Odysseus et al..This for latent, unavoid white racist historiography seeks to differentiate itself from the ‘east.’ In essence this Odysseus is fighting the monsters of the jungle, read outside Europe or whiteland, while Helen is fighting off the monsters at home, for which you read Europe/whiteland.
The thing is, they’re both on a journey towards the promised whiteland, that’s the hidden, narrative Odyssey, Odysseus is cleansing of the monsters, read none-whites, abroad, while Helen is fencing them off at home.
@spindlecitysister
September 22, 2026 at 9:03 am
OMG you guys, love it! Bros on a death mission! White men getting lost! Thanks, Elena and co. <3
@ginkgobilobatree
September 22, 2026 at 9:03 am
Look up the "Vestal Virgins" in Rome. It was basically lesser elites forced to sacrifice their own daughters at a young age, horrific misogyny.
@rdavis7350
September 22, 2026 at 9:03 am
Monty python's Odyssey was much better. I'll give Nolen's effort 2 winter sheep detectives.
@bleedleaf
September 22, 2026 at 9:03 am
The Helens are who we typically confuse with the Greek, the Hellenistic period and its culture gradually faded and disappeared. Much like the Anatolians are Turks today, the dominant cultures come and go but the people stay the same people. Obviously Egypt was around and influenced things long before Rome of Greece became powers, but the cultures and especially the pantheons had many things in common all across the mediterranean and even beyond
@Rakish_Tilt
September 22, 2026 at 9:03 am
Been a proud Red Nation Patreon supporter since 2020